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repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176628] Thu, 12 January 2012 12:09 Go to next message
M. Strobel is currently offline  M. Strobel
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On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.

Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.

Can it be repaired?

I am tired of ssh-ing into another server to test things.

/Str.
Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176631 is a reply to message #176628] Thu, 12 January 2012 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/12/2012 7:09 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>
> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>
> Can it be repaired?
>
> I am tired of ssh-ing into another server to test things.
>
> /Str.

Talk to the suse people.

Oh, I forgot. You can't figure out that PHP isn't responsible for
packaging on the different linuxes.

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Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176632 is a reply to message #176628] Thu, 12 January 2012 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>
> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>
> Can it be repaired?
>
> I am tired of ssh-ing into another server to test things.

You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at
hand but I don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you
could explain what the problem is.

Not knowing what you actually refer to, I've had a look at the manual
[1] for the -a feature and it says that PHP needs to be compiled with
the --with-readline option. You can verify that with phpinfo(). In Linux
distros, a missing feature normally requires to install a binary package
or recompile an existing one from sources.

[1] http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.interactive.php


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Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176633 is a reply to message #176632] Thu, 12 January 2012 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 12.01.2012 16:46, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
> El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>>
>> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>>
>> Can it be repaired?
--cut

> You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at hand but I
> don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you could explain what the
> problem is.
>

Es algo esencial en mi opinión. It helps you just do tests interactively.

SUSE:
--------------------------
strobel@s114-intel:~> php5 -a
Interactive mode enabled

<?php echo "hallo";
exit
;
^C
strobel@s114-intel:~>
--------------------------
Ubuntu:
--------------------------
strobel@u-s-dev1:~$ php5 -a
Interactive shell

php > echo "hi there";
hi there
php > exit
strobel@u-s-dev1:~$
--------------------------

The problem might just be a config thing.

/Str.
Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176634 is a reply to message #176633] Thu, 12 January 2012 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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El 12/01/2012 17:19, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
> Am 12.01.2012 16:46, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>> El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>>>
>>> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>>>
>>> Can it be repaired?
> --cut
>
>> You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at hand but I
>> don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you could explain what the
>> problem is.
>>
>
> Es algo esencial en mi opinión. It helps you just do tests interactively.
>
> SUSE:
> --------------------------
> strobel@s114-intel:~> php5 -a
> Interactive mode enabled
>
> <?php echo "hallo";
> exit
> ;
> ^C
> strobel@s114-intel:~>
> --------------------------
> Ubuntu:
> --------------------------
> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$ php5 -a
> Interactive shell
>
> php> echo "hi there";
> hi there
> php> exit
> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$
> --------------------------

Alright, that looks like missing "readline" feature, so my guess was
sort of correct :)

> The problem might just be a config thing.

First of all, please check whether phpinfo() displays "--with-readline"
as I suggested.


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Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176635 is a reply to message #176634] Thu, 12 January 2012 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 12.01.2012 17:56, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
> El 12/01/2012 17:19, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>> Am 12.01.2012 16:46, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>> El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>>>>
>>>> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>>>>
>>>> Can it be repaired?
>> --cut
>>
>>> You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at hand but I
>>> don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you could explain what the
>>> problem is.
>>>
>>
>> Es algo esencial en mi opinión. It helps you just do tests interactively.
>>
>> SUSE:
>> --------------------------
>> strobel@s114-intel:~> php5 -a
>> Interactive mode enabled
>>
>> <?php echo "hallo";
>> exit
>> ;
>> ^C
>> strobel@s114-intel:~>
>> --------------------------
>> Ubuntu:
>> --------------------------
>> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$ php5 -a
>> Interactive shell
>>
>> php> echo "hi there";
>> hi there
>> php> exit
>> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$
>> --------------------------
>
> Alright, that looks like missing "readline" feature, so my guess was sort of correct :)
>
>> The problem might just be a config thing.
>
> First of all, please check whether phpinfo() displays "--with-readline" as I suggested.

Your link to php.net gave me this idea immediately. But it is not the problem, "php5
-m" shows the compiles modules (called "extensions" by some), readline is there.

Now the problem could be a missing readline in the system, but no:

strobel@s114-intel:~> rpm -qa | grep readline
php5-readline-5.3.5-5.16.1.x86_64
readline-doc-6.1-18.25.1.noarch
libreadline6-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
readline-devel-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64

More suggestions?

/Str.
Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176636 is a reply to message #176635] Thu, 12 January 2012 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 12.01.2012 18:03, schrieb M. Strobel:
> Am 12.01.2012 17:56, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>> El 12/01/2012 17:19, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>> Am 12.01.2012 16:46, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>>> El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> > On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>>>> >
>>>> > Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>>>> >
>>>> > Can it be repaired?
>>> --cut
>>>
>>>> You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at hand but I
>>>> don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you could explain what the
>>>> problem is.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Es algo esencial en mi opinión. It helps you just do tests interactively.
>>>
>>> SUSE:
>>> --------------------------
>>> strobel@s114-intel:~> php5 -a
>>> Interactive mode enabled
>>>
>>> <?php echo "hallo";
>>> exit
>>> ;
>>> ^C
>>> strobel@s114-intel:~>
>>> --------------------------
>>> Ubuntu:
>>> --------------------------
>>> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$ php5 -a
>>> Interactive shell
>>>
>>> php> echo "hi there";
>>> hi there
>>> php> exit
>>> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$
>>> --------------------------
>>
>> Alright, that looks like missing "readline" feature, so my guess was sort of correct :)
>>
>>> The problem might just be a config thing.
>>
>> First of all, please check whether phpinfo() displays "--with-readline" as I suggested.
>
> Your link to php.net gave me this idea immediately. But it is not the problem, "php5
> -m" shows the compiles modules (called "extensions" by some), readline is there.
>
> Now the problem could be a missing readline in the system, but no:
>
> strobel@s114-intel:~> rpm -qa | grep readline
> php5-readline-5.3.5-5.16.1.x86_64
> readline-doc-6.1-18.25.1.noarch
> libreadline6-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
> readline-devel-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
>
> More suggestions?
>
> /Str.
>

I have been annoyed by this a long time, but never solved it.

I think I found it finally at
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/458 753-opensuse-11-4-php5-interactive-readline-not-working.html

The problem is the linux readline library, not to be confounded with the readline
extension of php5 which gives you script access to line editing. And the linux lib
must be compiled in. So a recompile should solve it.

BTW, php5 -a highly recommended if it works on your system.

/Str.
Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176637 is a reply to message #176636] Thu, 12 January 2012 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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El 12/01/2012 18:33, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
> Am 12.01.2012 18:03, schrieb M. Strobel:
>> Am 12.01.2012 17:56, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>> El 12/01/2012 17:19, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> Am 12.01.2012 16:46, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>>> > El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> >> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Can it be repaired?
>>>> --cut
>>>>
>>>> > You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at hand but I
>>>> > don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you could explain what the
>>>> > problem is.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Es algo esencial en mi opinión. It helps you just do tests interactively.
>>>>
>>>> SUSE:
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> strobel@s114-intel:~> php5 -a
>>>> Interactive mode enabled
>>>>
>>>> <?php echo "hallo";
>>>> exit
>>>> ;
>>>> ^C
>>>> strobel@s114-intel:~>
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> Ubuntu:
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$ php5 -a
>>>> Interactive shell
>>>>
>>>> php> echo "hi there";
>>>> hi there
>>>> php> exit
>>>> strobel@u-s-dev1:~$
>>>> --------------------------
>>>
>>> Alright, that looks like missing "readline" feature, so my guess was sort of correct :)
>>>
>>>> The problem might just be a config thing.
>>>
>>> First of all, please check whether phpinfo() displays "--with-readline" as I suggested.
>>
>> Your link to php.net gave me this idea immediately. But it is not the problem, "php5
>> -m" shows the compiles modules (called "extensions" by some), readline is there.
>>
>> Now the problem could be a missing readline in the system, but no:
>>
>> strobel@s114-intel:~> rpm -qa | grep readline
>> php5-readline-5.3.5-5.16.1.x86_64
>> readline-doc-6.1-18.25.1.noarch
>> libreadline6-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
>> readline-devel-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
>>
>> More suggestions?
>>
>> /Str.
>>
>
> I have been annoyed by this a long time, but never solved it.
>
> I think I found it finally at
> http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/458 753-opensuse-11-4-php5-interactive-readline-not-working.html
>
> The problem is the linux readline library, not to be confounded with the readline
> extension of php5 which gives you script access to line editing. And the linux lib
> must be compiled in. So a recompile should solve it.

That's what I was trying to say from the beginning: you need PHP
compiled with the "--with-readline" option. If it's not, you may need to
recompile from sources.

Running "php5 -m" displays the GNU Readline extension, which is cool to
write command line scripts in PHP but isn't directly related to the
command line interpreter (written in C).

However, the readline extension needs the "--with-readline" option as well:

http://es.php.net/manual/en/readline.installation.php

So if you already have it installed, I'm not sure why php -a is not
aware of it. It'd be cool to see if "--with-readline" shows up in
phpinfo() but I don't think it'll happen.



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Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176638 is a reply to message #176637] Thu, 12 January 2012 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 12.01.2012 18:45, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
> El 12/01/2012 18:33, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>> Am 12.01.2012 18:03, schrieb M. Strobel:
>>> Am 12.01.2012 17:56, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>>> El 12/01/2012 17:19, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> > Am 12.01.2012 16:46, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>>> >> El 12/01/2012 13:09, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> >>> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Can it be repaired?
>>>> > --cut
>>>> >
>>>> >> You assume that most people here have both a SuSE and an Ubuntu box at hand but I
>>>> >> don't think that's the case (not at least mine). Perhaps you could explain what
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> problem is.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Es algo esencial en mi opinión. It helps you just do tests interactively.
>>>> >
>>>> > SUSE:
>>>> > --------------------------
>>>> > strobel@s114-intel:~> php5 -a
>>>> > Interactive mode enabled
>>>> >
>>>> > <?php echo "hallo";
>>>> > exit
>>>> > ;
>>>> > ^C
>>>> > strobel@s114-intel:~>
>>>> > --------------------------
>>>> > Ubuntu:
>>>> > --------------------------
>>>> > strobel@u-s-dev1:~$ php5 -a
>>>> > Interactive shell
>>>> >
>>>> > php> echo "hi there";
>>>> > hi there
>>>> > php> exit
>>>> > strobel@u-s-dev1:~$
>>>> > --------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Alright, that looks like missing "readline" feature, so my guess was sort of
>>>> correct :)
>>>>
>>>> > The problem might just be a config thing.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, please check whether phpinfo() displays "--with-readline" as I
>>>> suggested.
>>>
>>> Your link to php.net gave me this idea immediately. But it is not the problem, "php5
>>> -m" shows the compiles modules (called "extensions" by some), readline is there.
>>>
>>> Now the problem could be a missing readline in the system, but no:
>>>
>>> strobel@s114-intel:~> rpm -qa | grep readline
>>> php5-readline-5.3.5-5.16.1.x86_64
>>> readline-doc-6.1-18.25.1.noarch
>>> libreadline6-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
>>> readline-devel-6.1-18.25.1.x86_64
>>>
>>> More suggestions?
>>>
>>> /Str.
>>>
>>
>> I have been annoyed by this a long time, but never solved it.
>>
>> I think I found it finally at
>> http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/458 753-opensuse-11-4-php5-interactive-readline-not-working.html
>>
>>
>> The problem is the linux readline library, not to be confounded with the readline
>> extension of php5 which gives you script access to line editing. And the linux lib
>> must be compiled in. So a recompile should solve it.
>
> That's what I was trying to say from the beginning: you need PHP compiled with the
> "--with-readline" option. If it's not, you may need to recompile from sources.
>
> Running "php5 -m" displays the GNU Readline extension, which is cool to write command
> line scripts in PHP but isn't directly related to the command line interpreter
> (written in C).
>
> However, the readline extension needs the "--with-readline" option as well:
>
> http://es.php.net/manual/en/readline.installation.php
>
> So if you already have it installed, I'm not sure why php -a is not aware of it. It'd
> be cool to see if "--with-readline" shows up in phpinfo() but I don't think it'll
> happen.

Interesting. Readline only shows up in phpinfo() if run from the command line - which
makes sense. Different ini files.

And indeed, there seems to be no way to see the compile options. And php readline
needs gnu readline? This would make it a bug.

/Str.
Re: repair SUSE php5 -a [message #176650 is a reply to message #176628] Sat, 14 January 2012 10:19 Go to previous message
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Am 12.01.2012 13:09, schrieb M. Strobel:
> On suse linux "php5 -a" has (always?) been broken.
>
> Compare it to Ubuntu "php5 -a" if you don't know what I mean.
>
> Can it be repaired?
>
> I am tired of ssh-ing into another server to test things.
>
> /Str.
For the archivers: what I found out

GNU readline is licensed under the GPL, not the LGPL, so there are license issues
when you link it into your project.

It looks like SUSE packaging just does not link in the readline library. I proved it
by compiling PHP "--with-readline", and it works.

Another solution of this problem can be seen at
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/license-gnu-readline.html

/Str.
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