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PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181019] Sat, 06 April 2013 16:40 Go to next message
Giacomo M is currently offline  Giacomo M
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Hi everybody,
Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?

I mean, how the performance is?

Thank you

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181022 is a reply to message #181019] Sat, 06 April 2013 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/6/2013 12:40 PM, Giacomo M wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>
> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> Thank you
>

Impossible to say without a LOT more information - especially the
conditions under which is running.

What you're asking is is the performance of a Honda Civic suitable.
Sure, for around town and on the highway. But I wouldn't try one on a
NASCAR track.

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181024 is a reply to message #181019] Sat, 06 April 2013 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Vilain is currently offline  Michael Vilain
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In article <kjpj66$rf$1(at)speranza(dot)aioe(dot)org>,
Giacomo M <kylnas(at)tiscali(dot)it> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>
> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> Thank you

PHP with MySQL is much more common. PHP is really optimized for the
Linux environment. If you get it to work, post what you did.

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181026 is a reply to message #181024] Sat, 06 April 2013 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas 'PointedEars'  is currently offline  Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Michael Vilain wrote:

> Giacomo M <kylnas(at)tiscali(dot)it> wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>>
>> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> PHP with MySQL is much more common.

ACK.

> PHP is really optimized for the Linux environment.

Nonsense.

> If you get it to work, post what you did.

RTFM and the AUP of your Usenet provider.


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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181037 is a reply to message #181019] Sun, 07 April 2013 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Man-wai Chang is currently offline  Man-wai Chang
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On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
> I mean, how the performance is?

OS: Windows or Linux?

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181039 is a reply to message #181037] Sun, 07 April 2013 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Giacomo M is currently offline  Giacomo M
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Il 07/04/2013 14:33, Mr. Man-wai Chang ha scritto:
> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> OS: Windows or Linux?

Windows.
The web site will be big with something like 1000 access per day.

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181041 is a reply to message #181039] Sun, 07 April 2013 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 07.04.2013 14:46, schrieb Giacomo M:
> Il 07/04/2013 14:33, Mr. Man-wai Chang ha scritto:
>> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>>> I mean, how the performance is?
>>
>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>
> Windows.
> The web site will be big with something like 1000 access per day.
>

This is 0,7 accesses per minute. The cheapest Web Space will do.

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181046 is a reply to message #181037] Sun, 07 April 2013 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At Sun, 07 Apr 2013 20:33:49 +0800 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet(dot)toylet(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

>
> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>> I mean, how the performance is?
>
> OS: Windows or Linux?

MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a
network connection (it is not generally not not considered a good idea
to access a SQL server (of any type) over a network connection,
partitularly a *public* Internet connection, from a security POV).
Note: accessing ANY SQL server over a network will be performance
limited by the network connection.

>

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181050 is a reply to message #181039] Sun, 07 April 2013 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 07/04/13 13:46, Giacomo M wrote:
> Il 07/04/2013 14:33, Mr. Man-wai Chang ha scritto:
>> On 7/04/2013 00:40, Giacomo M wrote:
>>> Is it suitable using PHP with MS SQL SERVER?
>>> I mean, how the performance is?
>>
>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>
> Windows.
> The web site will be big with something like 1000 access per day.
>
1/. 1000 accesses a *second* is BIG.

2/. BIG and 'using windows' should never be uttered in the same sentence


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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181065 is a reply to message #181046] Mon, 08 April 2013 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 7/04/2013 22:24, Robert Heller wrote:
>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>
> MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
> much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a

You could use a virtual machine to run M$ SQL $erver inside Linux! Not
sure if Wine could cut it... Anyway, don't overload it! :)


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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181069 is a reply to message #181065] Tue, 09 April 2013 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <kju84k$5ac$4(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet(dot)toylet(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On 7/04/2013 22:24, Robert Heller wrote:
>>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>>
>> MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
>> much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a
>
> You could use a virtual machine to run M$ SQL $erver inside Linux! Not
> sure if Wine could cut it... Anyway, don't overload it! :)

I seem to recall that MS SQL SERVER is engineered to require a real
system to run. It won't run in a VM. Leastways that the way it was a
few years ago. Maybe MS changed SQL SERVER to support running in a VM.

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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181070 is a reply to message #181069] Tue, 09 April 2013 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M. Strobel is currently offline  M. Strobel
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Am 09.04.2013 05:58, schrieb Michael Vilain:
> In article <kju84k$5ac$4(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet(dot)toylet(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/04/2013 22:24, Robert Heller wrote:
>>>> OS: Windows or Linux?
>>>
>>> MS SQL SERVER only runs on MS-Windows, so PHP with MS SQL SERVER pretty
>>> much implies MS-Windows, unless one is accessing MS SQL SERVER via a
>>
>> You could use a virtual machine to run M$ SQL $erver inside Linux! Not
>> sure if Wine could cut it... Anyway, don't overload it! :)
>
> I seem to recall that MS SQL SERVER is engineered to require a real
> system to run. It won't run in a VM. Leastways that the way it was a
> few years ago. Maybe MS changed SQL SERVER to support running in a VM.
>
Just looked it up, VMware vSphere is selling as MS SQL Server platform, and licensing
for MS SQL Server 2012 has entries for VM licences.


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Re: PHP with MS SQL SERVER: is it suitable? [message #181071 is a reply to message #181070] Tue, 09 April 2013 08:32 Go to previous message
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On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:24:13 +0200, M. Strobel wrote:

> Am 09.04.2013 05:58, schrieb Michael Vilain:

>> I seem to recall that MS SQL SERVER is engineered to require a real
>> system to run. It won't run in a VM. Leastways that the way it was a
>> few years ago. Maybe MS changed SQL SERVER to support running in a VM.
>>
> Just looked it up, VMware vSphere is selling as MS SQL Server platform,
> and licensing for MS SQL Server 2012 has entries for VM licences.
>
>
> /Str.

Running SQL Server here in a VMWare VM with no issues.

I'm working on a website that I'm slowly converting to PHP.
Half is running ASP, and half PHP. All running in a windows VM without
any issues (once I figured out what the connect string was !).

I wouldn't have chosen SQL Server if I'd had the choice, but that's what
I've got to work with, and it works as well as SQL Server ever does.

Regards
JohnT
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