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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164432 is a reply to message #164430] Fri, 04 February 2011 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's music to my ears.
We use FUDforum because it's the most powerful, but it definitely not the prettiest forum around.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164441 is a reply to message #164440] Sat, 05 February 2011 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With your proposed layout you will waste a lot of screen realestate. The whole idea behind keeping the poster info above the post is to maximize screen usage and to keep the layout modular.

It is quite hard to design for dynamic content, you have to put thought into every piece, why it is there, etc.

It's quite the huge job to do the whole thing, it will take you hundreds of hours to do a proper full restyling.

Anyhow, hope you manage to finish it, I have one restyle in progress, 20 hours into it, just too lazy to wrap it up ehhe


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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164452 is a reply to message #164442] Sun, 06 February 2011 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like it! We can introduce a new postbit as part of the default template set (ts), or as a skeleton ts similar to the current "user_info_left" and "user_info_right".

The current templates are relying too heavily on HTML tables, it would be great of your design can either be table-less or at least use it sparingly.

The "time ago" functionality can be introduced with jQuery. I was thinking of introducing it into the next release myself.

How do we proceed?
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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164496 is a reply to message #164463] Fri, 11 February 2011 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lirodon, I trust you are making good progress with the new theme.
Please let us know if there is anything we can do to help.
Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164654 is a reply to message #164496] Wed, 23 February 2011 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The whole idea behind keeping the poster info above the post is to maximize screen usage and to keep the layout modular.It is quite hard to design for dynamic content, you have to put thought into every piece, why it is there, etc...
Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164666 is a reply to message #164654] Fri, 25 February 2011 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could definitely see this forum being a great resource if you had a homepage with more how-to type articles and news/developments on FUD.
Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164669 is a reply to message #164666] Fri, 25 February 2011 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The current templates are relying too heavily on HTML tables, it would be great of your design can either be table-less or at least use it sparingly...


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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164705 is a reply to message #164685] Wed, 02 March 2011 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You are definitely getting there, a skin like that would be better than the current one I am sure. I'd still feel that your design is still a little old, sort of 2006.

Also note that text-shadow does not render well in chrome if you have cleartype enabled (which everyone has nowadays) and it doesnt work in most IE browsers. Using .htc files to fix that is not a good way.


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Ernesto wrote:
You are definitely getting there, a skin like that would be better than the current one I am sure. I'd still feel that your design is still a little old, sort of 2006.


So, how should a 2011 design look like?
Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164725 is a reply to message #164429] Wed, 02 March 2011 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Typography
Texturized backgrounds
Subtle Shading on elements
Large icons / buttons
Indicational navigation (IE, tabs v 2.0)
"3d" borders

Examples. Some are not pretty per-se, but they all use 2011 webtrends:

http://typophile.com/forum/4 - This one is pretty
http://www.macheist.com/forums/ - Dark, but shows well the shading and textures
http://www.teefury.com/forum/ - This one uses alot of the "web 2.0" elements, IE, influenced by twitter, facebook, etc
http://www.designforums.co.uk/ - Not so pretty, but tries to use all the trends
http://www.webdesignforums.net/ - Yet again web 2.0 look, reminds a lot about metaplace.
http://www.yourdesignforums.com/ - incredibly 2011, I don't like all the beveling though and the forum isn't completely skinned Razz


Typical 2006:
http://www.allgraphicdesign.com/phpBB2/



While the design presented in the above post IS pretty and follows one trend that is really strong, that the web should look like a desktop application, it copies the look of desktop applications from 2006. IE, Crystal for linux and the likes, which in their own right are pertty for sure, but it is not new. With new I do not mean never-seen-before, just not "modern".


Please please, do not get me wrong, the design presented is tons better than what we have, do not let my criticism disturb in any way, its a HUGE job to completely re-skin a forum. Your efforts are much much much appreciated!


Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164742 is a reply to message #164666] Fri, 04 March 2011 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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carlton wrote on Fri, 25 February 2011 09:29
Could definitely see this forum being a great resource if you had a homepage with more how-to type articles and news/developments on FUD.

id second that !!!

its been a great forum to use over the years, but for us mere mortals, a little more 'higher level' howto's would really help.

Is there any *we* can help at all? testing releases even, if you have test plans we could follow....even maybe write?

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andy_scouser wrote:
id second that !!!

its been a great forum to use over the years, but for us mere mortals, a little more 'higher level' howto's would really help.

Is there any *we* can help at all? testing releases even, if you have test plans we could follow....even maybe write?


More howto's would indeed be great. Instead of complaining, why don't we all write one or two? If we do, we will soon enough have a bunch of them.

I'm not aware of any test plans, it would be great if you can maybe start working on one?

After all, FUDforum belongs to all of us and everyone is free to contribute to it.
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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164751 is a reply to message #164750] Fri, 04 March 2011 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lirodon wrote:
Anyway, here's a new look, kinda went for more of a soft metal motif. And, I also hid profile info away in a new pop-up "miniprofile"


Absolutely stunning!

Lirodon wrote:
I would expect copious amounts of jQuery in such an end product, am I right?


Not necessarily. jQuery code is quite compact. And, if you do the HTML, I can always help to patch in the jQuery bits.

Lirodon wrote:
and yes, I do agree we need more involvement. Distributed version control can seriously help. I think you can do git and hg on SourceForge too though. But I'm not sure of their GUI cloning implementation is as good as Gitorious and the like or not.


Why don't we open a GIT project for this theme? We can always move the main repository later once we all understand GIT a bit better.
Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164752 is a reply to message #164751] Sat, 05 March 2011 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Much better! If we serve jquery with google content delivery system, most people should have it cached anyway.

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Re: Modernize the design and look [message #164865 is a reply to message #164750] Mon, 21 March 2011 20:39 Go to previous message
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just my 2 smokes, but that looks real nice.
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