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Wrong error message displayed [message #16703] Fri, 13 February 2004 07:28 Go to next message
Olliver   Germany
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Just a minor bug but somehow worth mentioning:

If a pending, yet unconfirmed user clicks the "Private Messaging" icon, he/she/it will get an error message that unregisterred persons aren't allowed to send messages.

This may cause confusion as there are links provided for logging in and registerring and may lead to the conclusion the registration has failed.

I think it should be the error message stating a user hasn't been approved by the administrator or hasn't confirmed the account him/her/itself yet, like it's displayed when attempting to post a reply.

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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16713 is a reply to message #16703] Fri, 13 February 2004 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good point.

Fixed in CVS.


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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16715 is a reply to message #16713] Fri, 13 February 2004 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are two more things which may cause confusion:

If search is disabled for anonymous users the form is still being displayed, as well as the icon. This leads to people assuming search is allowed but somehow broken. Wouldn't it be nicer not to show the form at all unless it's enabled? That would be more consistant to other features in FUD which already behave that way.

If an anonymous person views someone's profile a link stating "click here to email the user" is provided. Clicking it, however triggers an error message that someone isn't logged in. A lot of people assume if the link is around then they are allowed to send a message via this form (I ve seen it a lot in the error log). Not displaying the link if it isn't allowed would avoid this situation.

I myself feel more comfortable if things I'm not allowed to use aren't around than if a lot of things are there which spit error messages when touching them. Gives one the feeling not to be welcome somehow.

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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16716 is a reply to message #16715] Fri, 13 February 2004 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While it may cause confusion for some people lack of links may lead others to think the feature/option does not exist. I think it is better to display the link (in some cases) and an error indicating the user should either register or login to gain access to a particular feature.



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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16717 is a reply to message #16716] Fri, 13 February 2004 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree to that point if it's about unconfirmed users. there it is useful to show the features they're missing out on, as it's our goal to make them confirmed users.

But the search form isn't exactly useful if it's taking any sort of input and always returns "no result". I understand your ambition to show what FUD is capable of Wink but still think this form should only be around when the admin granted its usage.

Just a matter of preferences I guess Smile

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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16718 is a reply to message #16717] Fri, 13 February 2004 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Both forum search & member search links will not appear if they are disabled.

You can review the logic inside usercp.inc.t to see how it is done.


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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16720 is a reply to message #16718] Fri, 13 February 2004 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I expressed myself in a misunderstandable way.

I didn't refer to completely disabling the search as a whole, but restrict it via the group manager for particular people. If I disable the search for anonymous visitors via the group manager, the form still appears for them though.

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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16725 is a reply to message #16720] Fri, 13 February 2004 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah... I see what you are talking about.

I am afraid adding this functionality would be quite slow to implement since almost always at the time the user control panel links are drawn the system does not know if you can search or not.

The only possibility, which I may consider is if you have no searchable forums give a message in that regard when the search page is accessed.


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Re: Wrong error message displayed [message #16727 is a reply to message #16725] Fri, 13 February 2004 19:10 Go to previous message
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Ok, I see. Thanks for looking into it

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