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file size [message #183731] Sun, 17 November 2013 12:12 Go to next message
Mr Oldies is currently offline  Mr Oldies
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Just curious.
Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
Re: file size [message #183732 is a reply to message #183731] Sun, 17 November 2013 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 17/11/13 17:12, richard wrote:
> Just curious.
> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
>
What does the term 'server seeing' mean, please?

I have yet to find a web server endowed with eyes or intelligence, which
are both qualities associated with 'seeing'

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Re: file size [message #183734 is a reply to message #183732] Sun, 17 November 2013 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:24:00 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> wrote:

> On 17/11/13 17:12, richard wrote:
>> Just curious.
>> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
>> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
>> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
>>
> What does the term 'server seeing' mean, please?
>
> I have yet to find a web server endowed with eyes or intelligence, which
> are both qualities associated with 'seeing'

My bet is bullis has a hosting package which has a bandwidth limit.
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Re: file size [message #183736 is a reply to message #183734] Sun, 17 November 2013 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:17:56 -0800, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:24:00 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 17/11/13 17:12, richard wrote:
>>> Just curious.
>>> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
>>> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
>>> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
>>>
>> What does the term 'server seeing' mean, please?
>>
>> I have yet to find a web server endowed with eyes or intelligence, which
>> are both qualities associated with 'seeing'
>
> My bet is bullis has a hosting package which has a bandwidth limit.

and you would lose that bet.
http://www.hostgator.com/shared
Re: file size [message #183737 is a reply to message #183731] Sun, 17 November 2013 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 17/11/13 18:12, richard wrote:
> Just curious.
> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?

This is really OT as it has nothing to do with PHP.

The server will see two files, one 5kb and another 300kb large, the web
service will send you a stream of 305 kb (plus hand shaking, headers,
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Re: file size [message #183739 is a reply to message #183737] Sun, 17 November 2013 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 11/17/2013 2:41 PM, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 17/11/13 18:12, richard wrote:
>> Just curious.
>> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
>> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
>> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
>
> This is really OT as it has nothing to do with PHP.
>
> The server will see two files, one 5kb and another 300kb large, the web
> service will send you a stream of 305 kb (plus hand shaking, headers,
> cookies).
>

Maybe... Depending on the request, cache control, phase of the moon and
a dozen other things.

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Re: file size [message #183742 is a reply to message #183736] Sun, 17 November 2013 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:35:20 -0500, richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com>
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>> My bet is bullis has a hosting package which has a bandwidth limit.
>
> and you would lose that bet.
> http://www.hostgator.com/shared

Oh. A link. That proves it.

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Re: file size [message #183764 is a reply to message #183736] Mon, 18 November 2013 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 17.11.2013 20:35, schrieb richard:
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:17:56 -0800, Evan Platt wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:24:00 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>> <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/11/13 17:12, richard wrote:
>>>> Just curious.
>>>> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
>>>> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
>>>> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
>>>>
>>> What does the term 'server seeing' mean, please?
>>>
>>> I have yet to find a web server endowed with eyes or intelligence, which
>>> are both qualities associated with 'seeing'
>>
>> My bet is bullis has a hosting package which has a bandwidth limit.
>
> and you would lose that bet.
> http://www.hostgator.com/shared

Did you read the fine print as well?

It is technically impossible to offer "unlimited" bandwidth. There is
just no limit defined in the contract - but of course there *is* a limit:

"There are no set limits on the disk space or data transfer (bandwidth)
that we provide in our shared and reseller hosting plans. We want you to
have the resources you need to build a great online presence.

That being said, we do require all customers to be fully compliant with
our Terms of Service and utilize disk space and bandwidth in the normal
operation of a personal or small business website. While it is rare, we
may need to put constraints on accounts that are using resources that
impact other customers on the same server.

Typically, customers only run into issues if they use their accounts for
storage or file sharing, which is not what our services are intended to
support. In accordance with our Terms of Services the disk space and
bandwidth you use must be integrated into the normal operation of your
website.

For Example, customers who are affecting other clients or are using 25%
or more of system resources for longer then 90 seconds would be in
violation. Please see our TOS or contact us for complete details and
restrictions."


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Re: file size [message #183766 is a reply to message #183737] Mon, 18 November 2013 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 17.11.2013 20:41, schrieb J.O. Aho:
> On 17/11/13 18:12, richard wrote:
>> Just curious.
>> Say I have a php page that has a file size of 5kb.
>> In the script I include a page that is 300kb in size.
>> Is the server seeing the page as 305kb or 5kb?
>
> This is really OT as it has nothing to do with PHP.
>
> The server will see two files, one 5kb and another 300kb large, the web
> service will send you a stream of 305 kb (plus hand shaking, headers,
> cookies).

No - it won't. How much is being *sent* depends on what the PHP script
produces as output and not on the script size.


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Re: file size [message #183774 is a reply to message #183739] Mon, 18 November 2013 13:19 Go to previous message
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:45:41 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> Maybe... Depending on the request, cache control, phase of the moon and
> a dozen other things.

I believe a link has been postulated to the number of goats sacrificed at
Chichen Itza in the preceding lunar month.

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