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German update [message #16722] Fri, 13 February 2004 16:33 Go to next message
Olliver   Germany
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Duh, it was high time to fix the mess I left Smile

Apart from translating the newly added strings I applied a couple of spelling, grammar and other errors.

Changes apply to the most recent CVS.

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Re: German update [message #16724 is a reply to message #16722] Fri, 13 February 2004 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks the translation was updated.

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Re: German update [message #16755 is a reply to message #16724] Mon, 16 February 2004 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's an update for the update. Some administrative messages sent via email used htmlentities for umlauts, which doesn't exactly look appealing in asci emails Smile

So here's the corrected version:
Re: German update [message #16759 is a reply to message #16755] Tue, 17 February 2004 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, updated.

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Re: German update [message #18989 is a reply to message #16759] Mon, 21 June 2004 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does anybody require an updated Message file in german, according to the 'neue schwachsinnige Rechtschreibung' with:

dass instead of daß
musst instead of mußt
nimm instead of nehme
du, dein, deine, dir, dich lowercase ( if not beginning a sentence?)
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Re: German update [message #18995 is a reply to message #18989] Mon, 21 June 2004 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This message file uses an old msg as base and won't work with newever versions of FUDforum.

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Re: German update [message #18997 is a reply to message #18995] Mon, 21 June 2004 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sorry, the underlying german msg-file came with the FUDforum_2-6-4.tar.gz downloaded Saturday. Where can I find a newer?

(By the way: In which directory do I find the adapted FAQ for a language on my server?)

[Updated on: Mon, 21 June 2004 10:55]

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Re: German update [message #18998 is a reply to message #18997] Mon, 21 June 2004 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can find it in the web CVS.
http://cvs.prohost.org/c/index.cgi/FUDforum/getfile/install/forum_data/thm/ default/i18n/german/msg

The FAQ can be found inside the i18n/german/help directory.


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Re: German update [message #19000 is a reply to message #18998] Mon, 21 June 2004 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, try this one: http://laertes.de/
Re: German update [message #19001 is a reply to message #19000] Mon, 21 June 2004 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perfect, thanks.

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icon5.gif  Re: German update [message #19030 is a reply to message #19001] Tue, 22 June 2004 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilja, I do not understand one thing:
  1. In the german version the iso-8859-15 is used by FUDforum.
  2. In iso-8859-15 do all the stupid ÄÖÜäöüß, which we germans cannot live without them, lie in the same positions as in iso-8859-1.

… so, Twisted Evil do we really need those stupid entities for the 'Umlaute' and the 'ß' in the german i18n-files?


… here come the fresh help-files


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Re: German update [message #19032 is a reply to message #19030] Tue, 22 June 2004 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iso-8859-15 != iso-8859-1

Using entities is not necessary but is safer.


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Re: German update [message #19066 is a reply to message #16722] Wed, 23 June 2004 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Due to my officiousness now in http://cvs.prohost.org/c/index.cgi/FUDforum/getfile/install/forum_data/thm/ default/i18n/german/msg
can be found one nimmn which should be re-replaced with nehmen

and one vornimmn which should be re-replaced with vornehmen

Embarassed Ilia, I'm sorry for having produced some unnecessary extrawork for you.

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Re: German update [message #19070 is a reply to message #19066] Wed, 23 June 2004 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fixed, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #29653 is a reply to message #16722] Sat, 07 January 2006 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I needed a formal ("Sie") german language file, so I translated the original FUD 2.7.3 german msg file.
hope I didn't re-invent the wheel Smile

So here it is, in case someone else might need it:
Re: German update [message #29684 is a reply to message #29653] Mon, 09 January 2006 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you think it would be a good idea to replace the current translation with the formal variant or to offer it side-by-side?

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Re: German update [message #29686 is a reply to message #29684] Mon, 09 January 2006 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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don't think it's a good idea to replace it, as germans can be quite picky bout formal/informal language Razz

you can't really use informal for a corporate/business site and using formal language in a community/younger-ppl-environment sounds also kinda stupid.
so I'd suggest to include both of them.
Re: German update [message #29713 is a reply to message #29686] Tue, 10 January 2006 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've added the formal German translation to the CVS. It will appear as "german_formal" in the language list.

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Re: German update [message #32091 is a reply to message #16722] Wed, 07 June 2006 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Updated translation (german and german_formal), there shouldn't be any untranslated parts compared to latest cvs.

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Re: German update [message #32094 is a reply to message #32091] Wed, 07 June 2006 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Translation was updated, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #33681 is a reply to message #16722] Wed, 13 September 2006 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is the German translation with updated help files (german and german_formal) for 2.7.6.
Re: German update [message #33693 is a reply to message #33681] Thu, 14 September 2006 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Translation was updated, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #36534 is a reply to message #16722] Wed, 28 March 2007 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hi,
found a litle error in german messages (2.7.7RC1):
tabs.tmpl -> tabs_notifications
Benachrichtigungenfinduser_flag:
has to be
Benachrichtigungen

weiter so Wink
Re: German update [message #36535 is a reply to message #16722] Wed, 28 March 2007 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you, I know about this mistake in the current version of the German translation.

I have attached my current development version of the German translation, where I have fixed all mistakes which I know about. Of course I would be very happy about feedback. Smile
Re: German update [message #36548 is a reply to message #36535] Thu, 29 March 2007 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The translation was updated, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #36901 is a reply to message #16722] Mon, 16 April 2007 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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post_common_align_left: Linksbündig
post_common_align_right: Rechtsbündig
post_common_link: Link einfügen
post_common_email: E-Mail-Addresse einfügen
post_common_image: Bild einfügen
post_common_nlist: Nummerierte Liste einfügen
post_common_blist: Aufzählung einfügen
post_common_quote: Zitat einfügen
post_common_code: Code einfügen

corretct:

post_common_align_left: Linksbündig
post_common_align_right: Rechtsbündig
post_common_link: Link einfügen
post_common_email: E-Mail-Addresse einfügen
post_common_image: Bild einfügen
post_common_nlist: Nummerierte Liste einfügen
post_common_blist: Aufzählung einfügen
post_common_quote: Zitat einfügen
post_common_code: Code einfügen
Re: German update [message #36907 is a reply to message #36901] Mon, 16 April 2007 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Updated in CVS, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #37022 is a reply to message #16722] Fri, 27 April 2007 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have just found more mistakes:

pmsg_on				am
move_msg_btn:			Verschiebe ausgewählte Beiträge
Re: German update [message #37043 is a reply to message #37022] Sun, 29 April 2007 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fixed in CVS, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #38376 is a reply to message #16722] Tue, 31 July 2007 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have made an update to the german and german_formal translation which fixes a few mistakes.
Re: German update [message #38383 is a reply to message #38376] Tue, 31 July 2007 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hrm, how did you make the patch?

I am getting rejections trying to apply any of the 4 diff files


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Re: German update [message #38387 is a reply to message #16722] Wed, 01 August 2007 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't know what I have done wrong, I thought that I did it as usual. I have attached a new attempt.

I have noticed that there is a german_formal/help/readingposting.hlp.orig file in CVS, could you please delete it?
By the way do you know why the german_formal folder is not visible in web CVS?

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Re: German update [message #38395 is a reply to message #38387] Wed, 01 August 2007 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The german translation was updated.

Thanks.

Were there supposed to be updates to the help docs as well?


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Re: German update [message #38402 is a reply to message #16722] Thu, 02 August 2007 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eh, what patch did you use - the latest one I attached here? It seems that the translation was reverted to an older state.

There should have been an update to the German msg file, faq_index.hlp and boardusage.hlp. The corresponding files with the "formal" suffix are for german_formal.

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Re: German update [message #38417 is a reply to message #38402] Sun, 05 August 2007 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you perhaps send me the patched files?

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Re: German update [message #38432 is a reply to message #16722] Mon, 06 August 2007 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No problem, I have attached the whole files instead of the diffs now.
Re: German update [message #38489 is a reply to message #38432] Thu, 09 August 2007 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The translation was updated.

Thanks.


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Re: German update [message #158850 is a reply to message #16722] Sat, 04 April 2009 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have attached an update to the German translation. It should be in sync now with the current CVS version of the English translation.

By the way, there seems to be one problem with the script tr_status used for determining the status of the translations. If a string in a translation is the same as the original English string, the string is marked as untranslated. However, there are some texts that doesn't need to be translated - like for example "Administrator", which is the same in English and German.

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Re: German update [message #158853 is a reply to message #158850] Sat, 04 April 2009 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Committed, see http://cvs.prohost.org/c/index.cgi/FUDforum/chngview?cn=11909

I don't think it's the script's fault. There is no fool-proof way for it to know if a given message was actually translated or not. To solve this problem we will have to migrate all messages to GNU gettext (*.po) files.

Best regards.

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Re: German update [message #158854 is a reply to message #16722] Sat, 04 April 2009 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I also think that this can't be solved without changing how translations work in FUDform. Maybe a way that could work would be to add only really translated strings to the translations. If FUDforum can't find a string in the translation it would use the English string. This should actually be possible without changing the current system completely. However, I don't know whether this should really be done (just to know the status of the translations more precisely). And probably I should have started the discussion after my holiday...

I have updated the Wiki page manually with the new information about the German translation.
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