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Make description for topics [message #33525] Tue, 05 September 2006 17:50 Go to next message
Alexxx is currently offline  Alexxx   Russian Federation
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Why not make descriptions for topics, like IPB forum (specially field when a topic create) or like VBulletin forum (downloading first post and insert him to title parameter for link to this topic)?
Re: Make description for topics [message #33534 is a reply to message #33525] Wed, 06 September 2006 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For one it makes the topic listing page extremely large and slow to load.

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Re: Make description for topics [message #33603 is a reply to message #33534] Sat, 09 September 2006 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 19:19

For one it makes the topic listing page extremely large and slow to load.

I for one disagree!
If you realizes my first suggestion (like a Ivision Power Board System) then needed only one string that have limited lenght (for example 100 chars)
Re: Make description for topics [message #33632 is a reply to message #33603] Mon, 11 September 2006 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is this text something that is picked automatically or does a user need to enter it?

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Re: Make description for topics [message #35027 is a reply to message #33525] Sun, 03 December 2006 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think this could be an interesting idea, so I answer the question.
In Invasion Power Board the topic description can be entered by the user in addition to the topic title, entering a description is optional.
Re: Make description for topics [message #35029 is a reply to message #33525] Mon, 04 December 2006 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I too am fond of topic descriptions. When I converted to FUDforum from openBB I actually had planned to add a topic description, but was too lazy to actually do it. I have a rather narrow layout on my forum (808px width) so I have to keep my topics short, since I still want the topic title to have rather decently large text. A topic description below in smaller text would solve my headaches for that.

It's not like its the end of the world, but I like topic descriptions, helps the actual topics to be, you know, topics.

For example, a topic on my forum:

Redfine middle button with Logitech Setpoint

With a topic description, the user would rather make it like this:

Logitech Setpoint
Redefine your mouse buttons!

Generally, it seems like topic descriptions leads the users into being better at properly naming the actual topics, which makes it easier to browse through. But well, as I said, it's not the end of the world that we don't have topic descriptions, but it's not something that would really slow the forum down either, you only have to grab it when you list threads, don't need to always grab it in like, last topic posted etc, not even when you show a thread, only needs to be shown in thread (or tree) thread listing.


Re: Make description for topics [message #35048 is a reply to message #35027] Mon, 04 December 2006 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JanRei wrote on Sun, 03 December 2006 14:37

I think this could be an interesting idea, so I answer the question.
In Invasion Power Board the topic description can be entered by the user in addition to the topic title, entering a description is optional.


How long of a text description do they allow? Adding another varchar(255) is not a problem but another TEXT field is a bit problematic given the performance impact it makes on data fetch, specially in MYSQL.


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Re: Make description for topics [message #35051 is a reply to message #35048] Mon, 04 December 2006 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia schrieb am Mo, 04 Dezember 2006 16:29

JanRei wrote on Sun, 03 December 2006 14:37

I think this could be an interesting idea, so I answer the question.
In Invasion Power Board the topic description can be entered by the user in addition to the topic title, entering a description is optional.


How long of a text description do they allow? Adding another varchar(255) is not a problem but another TEXT field is a bit problematic given the performance impact it makes on data fetch, specially in MYSQL.

In version 2.1.7 the description seems to be limited to 150 chars.
Re: Make description for topics [message #35056 is a reply to message #35051] Mon, 04 December 2006 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Topic descriptions were added in the CVS

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Re: Make description for topics [message #35063 is a reply to message #33525] Mon, 04 December 2006 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Instead of adding the description in a title tag, I added it in a smaller font (11 (or 12)px, normal weight) on a line below the topic title (Topic title is 13px, bold)

Re: Make description for topics [message #35069 is a reply to message #35063] Tue, 05 December 2006 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I prefer the title approach.

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Re: Make description for topics [message #35091 is a reply to message #33525] Wed, 06 December 2006 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just upgraded my development forum to the latest CVS and I have two comments about this implemention.

1) I agree with Ernesto and prefer showing the description below the title on the topic listing page. I think it is unpratical to place your mouse cursor on the topic title to read the description in a tooltip. This precedur is too slow in my opinion and not possible in case you want to glance over the topic listing.
2) I think it is better to put the input box for the description below the input box for the title, because both belong to each other somehow and it looks better in my opionion. A input box nearly at the bottom of the posting form was a bit unexpected for me.

Re: Make description for topics [message #35097 is a reply to message #35091] Thu, 07 December 2006 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JanRei wrote on Wed, 06 December 2006 14:55

I just upgraded my development forum to the latest CVS and I have two comments about this implemention.

1) I agree with Ernesto and prefer showing the description below the title on the topic listing page. I think it is unpratical to place your mouse cursor on the topic title to read the description in a tooltip. This precedur is too slow in my opinion and not possible in case you want to glance over the topic listing.
2) I think it is better to put the input box for the description below the input box for the title, because both belong to each other somehow and it looks better in my opionion. A input box nearly at the bottom of the posting form was a bit unexpected for me.



I agree on both points, if the desription is not visible on the overview, it is pointless.

Also, the input box should be directly below the title box (I moved it there myself instantly). I limited my topic title box to 40 chars now, to even further push the value of the description box, which is 60 wide.


Re: Make description for topics [message #35100 is a reply to message #35091] Thu, 07 December 2006 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The suggestions were integrated.

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Re: Make description for topics [message #35964 is a reply to message #33525] Sat, 24 February 2007 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have two additional suggestions for this:
1) Add a colon after the "Topic Description" text (post_descr in msg file), so it looks like the other texts shown on the left of the posting form.
2) Add a tabindex to the input field for the topic description, so you can go through the form with the tab key like this: title -> topic description -> body.
Re: Make description for topics [message #35993 is a reply to message #35964] Tue, 27 February 2007 00:39 Go to previous message
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Added in CVS, for the suggestion.

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