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CMS Recommendation [message #180454] Mon, 18 February 2013 01:00 Go to next message
douglassdavis50 is currently offline  douglassdavis50
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Hi,

I am going to make a website, and I need some recommendations as far as a CMS.

What I really want is an applications development framework, considering that I will be doing a lot of PHP pages for web applications. So, while editing pages is important, being able to add PHP pages is more important. It would also be nice if there was an available API to do some common things.

Thanks,
Doug
Re: CMS Recommendation [message #180455 is a reply to message #180454] Mon, 18 February 2013 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Vilain is currently offline  Michael Vilain
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In article <a97c93a5-965d-4097-a4bb-31580aa0e8c0(at)googlegroups(dot)com>,
douglassdavis50(at)gmail(dot)com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am going to make a website, and I need some recommendations as far as a
> CMS.
>
> What I really want is an applications development framework, considering that
> I will be doing a lot of PHP pages for web applications. So, while editing
> pages is important, being able to add PHP pages is more important. It would
> also be nice if there was an available API to do some common things.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug

None of the CMS' I've looked at are PHP development environments.
That's not the job of a CMS. They're _content_ management environments.

Be aware that if you do something stupid or try something outside of the
CMS in php, the page won't display and you may crash your site. So be
very careful on what you want to do.

I developed a site using a CMS. Although my own site is Wordpress which
is pretty straightforward to add stuff to and code plus it has a bunch
of plugins that are actively supported, it's not meant for doing php
pages. You _can_ install a plugin that will allow you to do that, but
it's kludgy.

I looked at Joomla and found it to be very closed and you had to pay for
lots of stuff to get it working unless you were willing to roll you own.

I ended up with Drupal. It had the features and extensibility that the
client said they wanted (and later decided they didn't but _might_
later). It allowed for multiple roles so different type of people could
make updates to different type of content. It allowed for php pages if
you followed strict guidelines about content. I ended up writing a user
membership list import feature that sucked an Excel spreadsheet into the
site, populated a table in the Drupal back end database, and kept a log
of all this. Users could query this database using an interface I wrote
from the CMS site. Most CMS' won't let you touch the back-end database
without writing your own plugin or extension to the CMS. Drupal allowed
me to use the Drupal database calls to pull stuff from the membership
table and display it.

You're going to have to make your own determination on what CMS will
suit your needs. It took me a week to proto-type the base home page in
a few CMS' for the client to look at plus come up with features/benefits
of each. Your approach may be different but you'll have to do your own
leg work and evaluation.

Good luck.

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Re: CMS Recommendation [message #180456 is a reply to message #180455] Mon, 18 February 2013 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M. Strobel is currently offline  M. Strobel
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Am 18.02.2013 08:27, schrieb Michael Vilain:
> In article <a97c93a5-965d-4097-a4bb-31580aa0e8c0(at)googlegroups(dot)com>,
> douglassdavis50(at)gmail(dot)com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am going to make a website, and I need some recommendations as far as a
>> CMS.
>>
>> What I really want is an applications development framework, considering that
>> I will be doing a lot of PHP pages for web applications. So, while editing
>> pages is important, being able to add PHP pages is more important. It would
>> also be nice if there was an available API to do some common things.
>>

>
> None of the CMS' I've looked at are PHP development environments.
> That's not the job of a CMS. They're _content_ management environments.
>
>
> I ended up with Drupal. It had the features and extensibility that the
> client said they wanted (and later decided they didn't but _might_
> later). It allowed for multiple roles so different type of people could

Which version? I might have said this for Drupal 6, but version 7?

/Str.
Re: CMS Recommendation [message #180457 is a reply to message #180454] Mon, 18 February 2013 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Captain Paralytic is currently offline  Captain Paralytic
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On Feb 18, 6:00 am, douglassdavi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am going to make a website, and I need some recommendations as far as a CMS.
>
> What I really want is an applications development framework, considering that I will be doing a lot of PHP pages for web applications.  So, while editing pages is important, being able to add PHP pages is more important.  It would also be nice if there was an available API to do some common things.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug

Joomla now has a separate framework and CMS application. See:
http://docs.joomla.org/Joomla!_Framework_vs_Joomla!_Platform

Wordpress and Contao both provide fairly simple APIs and I have also
recently been using Codeigniter although that is more pure framework.

I tend to always come back to Joomla though.
Re: CMS Recommendation [message #180458 is a reply to message #180454] Mon, 18 February 2013 09:34 Go to previous message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 2/18/2013 1:00 AM, douglassdavis50(at)gmail(dot)com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am going to make a website, and I need some recommendations as far as a CMS.
>
> What I really want is an applications development framework, considering that I will be doing a lot of PHP pages for web applications. So, while editing pages is important, being able to add PHP pages is more important. It would also be nice if there was an available API to do some common things.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>

You need to study up on what a CMS is. It is not an applications
development framework.

And if you do want a CMS, there is no good answer to your question. You
need to detail your requirements and look at the various CMS's to see
which ones satisfy those requirements.

A PHP development newsgroup is not a good place to ask such questions.
Most people here don't use CMS's, and those who do will tell you about
their favorite one. Those recommendations may or may not be what you want.

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