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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181521 is a reply to message #181516] Sun, 19 May 2013 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/19/2013 12:42 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knakk4$oi1$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...
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>> Once again you don't know what you are talking about. The protocol
>> used in Usenet are well documented in RFC's. And without a protocol
>> there would be no agreement on how to implement Usenet - and no Usenet.
>
> Usenet uses protocols nobody claimed otherwise.
> Your error was in thinking that the application IS the protocol - which
> it is not.
>

Sigh... Once again, to quote you:

"Well it probably would have been - had there ever been a usenet protocol.
But there is no usenet protocol. "


> In psychology, this logical disconnect happens a lot with older folks.
> And when it's pointed out to them, they get very defensive.
> I really hope I don't do that when I get to be that age.
>

And failure to remember what you said just a few minutes ago is a real
problem for lots of people. So is claiming nobody ever said something -
when they did just a few minutes before.

And so is trying to blame someone else for one's shortcomings. It's
called "transference".

You have been proven wrong in every claim you've made about usenet - and
not by only me. You should have quit before posting anything - you just
continue to show how silly you are.

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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181522 is a reply to message #181518] Sun, 19 May 2013 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/19/2013 12:52 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knakmd$oi1$2(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>
>> In this case I agree with Sanders. Much more well reasoned than your
>> tripe.
>
> This happens a lot with the Republican fringes - especially the
> Libertarians.


You don't even understand the difference between a Republican and a
Libertarian. They are not related at all.

> They see someone who's wrong being schooled and they join in - so they
> can finally feel like they're right about something.
>

No, just pointing out it one of the few times in your life you've ever
been right about anything.

> But then their character comes out and they rail about commie
> conspiracies and Kenyan spies and nobody takes them seriously.
> So they change their fake ID and start all over again.
>

So now you're coming up with commie theories? How long before you
invoke Godwin's Law?

> Anonymity was a great principle - for a news forum.
> But for a threaded discussion forum - it just enables hecklers and
> vandals to piss on people without having to suffer the consequences.
>

Yes, there are a few like that here.


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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181523 is a reply to message #181515] Sun, 19 May 2013 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/19/2013 12:37 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knakq9$oi1$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
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>> Wrong again. Check the RFCs. Usenet has its own protocol - separate
>> from HTTP, SMTP, etc.
>
> Of course usenet HAS protocols. Nobody claimed otherwise.
> But you said that usenet IS a protocol - and that's patently false.
>
> Usenet is not a protocol.
> The world wide web is not a protocol.
> Facebook is not a protocol.
> They all use protocols, but are not themselves protocols.
>
> And while we're at it - your monitor is not a computer and no, I can't
> install Microsoft on your mouse. ;)
>

No one ever claimed Usenet was a protocol. But there is a Usenet
protocol. You're trying to split words - and it doesn't work.

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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181524 is a reply to message #181512] Sun, 19 May 2013 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/19/2013 12:23 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>
>> No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
>> thread.
>
> OK, assuming you're the victim you say you are...
> - Who forced your hand and made you post those replies?
> - Did you choose the wording, or was that forced on you as well.
> - These folks who force you to post replies - do they make you to do
> other things, as well?
>
>

I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
that subject up.


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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181536 is a reply to message #181524] Tue, 21 May 2013 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...

> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought that
> subject up.

Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though you
were going along.
That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181537 is a reply to message #181523] Tue, 21 May 2013 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb69p$r05$2(at)dont-email(dot)me...

> You're trying to split words - and it doesn't work.

No, "splitting words" is something else entirely.
What I did was to speak honestly.

See, that's your bad character overwhelming your intellect... again.
Normally, you prefer precision speaking - except when it proves you wrong.
When that happens, your victim mentality kicks in and you get defensive and
say stupid things.

That's why here you said both that Usenet is a protocol, and that it is not.
It's not an intellectual shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181538 is a reply to message #181521] Tue, 21 May 2013 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb61o$q0t$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...

> And failure to remember what you said just a few minutes ago is a real

It's not that I don't know what I said.
It's just that you're confused because your character has no mechanism for
admitting when you're wrong.
As a result - you contradict yourself and ramble on about how misunderstood
you are.
It's a character flaw.
Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181539 is a reply to message #181522] Tue, 21 May 2013 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb67i$r05$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...

> You don't even understand the difference between a Republican and a
> Libertarian. They are not related at all.

Yeah, right - not related at all - gotcha.
Rand and Ron Paul are in for a heck of a surprise when you tell them they've
been getting it wrong all these years.
Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181543 is a reply to message #181538] Tue, 21 May 2013 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/21/2013 2:01 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb61o$q0t$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>
>> And failure to remember what you said just a few minutes ago is a real
>
> It's not that I don't know what I said.
> It's just that you're confused because your character has no mechanism
> for admitting when you're wrong.
> As a result - you contradict yourself and ramble on about how
> misunderstood you are.
> It's a character flaw.
>

So since you've been told you're wrong about every post you've made in
this thread (and not by only me), you start with the ad hominem attacks.

How much like the troll you are, Sanders.

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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181544 is a reply to message #181539] Tue, 21 May 2013 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/21/2013 2:03 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb67i$r05$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>
>> You don't even understand the difference between a Republican and a
>> Libertarian. They are not related at all.
>
> Yeah, right - not related at all - gotcha.
> Rand and Ron Paul are in for a heck of a surprise when you tell them
> they've been getting it wrong all these years.
>
>

Once again you have no idea what you're talking about. But that's
pretty standard for you.

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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181545 is a reply to message #181537] Tue, 21 May 2013 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/21/2013 1:59 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb69p$r05$2(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>
>> You're trying to split words - and it doesn't work.
>
> No, "splitting words" is something else entirely.
> What I did was to speak honestly.
>
> See, that's your bad character overwhelming your intellect... again.
> Normally, you prefer precision speaking - except when it proves you wrong.
> When that happens, your victim mentality kicks in and you get defensive
> and say stupid things.
>
> That's why here you said both that Usenet is a protocol, and that it is
> not.
> It's not an intellectual shortcoming; it's a character flaw.

Once again, you're wrong. However, you have to resort to the ad hominem
attacks in a futile attempt to prove you're better than others.

How like the troll.

And in psychological terms, it's called "transference" - when you blame
someone else for your own flaws.

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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181546 is a reply to message #181536] Tue, 21 May 2013 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>
>> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>> that subject up.
>
> Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
> you were going along.
> That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
> shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>

Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.

They also start with the ad hominem attacks. Who gave you the degree in
psychology? Oh, it's just transference again.

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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181592 is a reply to message #181546] Thu, 23 May 2013 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <knfgii$b58$4(at)dont-email(dot)me>, jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net says...
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> On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>
>>> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought


ROFL

Yes it seems my first assumption was the correct one.
Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181785 is a reply to message #181546] Sat, 01 June 2013 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle, 2013-05-21 12:03:

> On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>
>>> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>>> that subject up.
>>
>> Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
>> you were going along.
>> That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
>> shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>>
>
> Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
> can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.

In <knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me> you wrote:

"No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
thread."

But you will tell us of course, that "I did not go along willingly" is
something totally different to "I didn't go along willingly" ;-)




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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181787 is a reply to message #181785] Sat, 01 June 2013 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 6/1/2013 11:36 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-05-21 12:03:
>
>> On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>>
>>>> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>>>> that subject up.
>>>
>>> Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
>>> you were going along.
>>> That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
>>> shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>>>
>>
>> Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
>> can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.
>
> In <knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me> you wrote:
>
> "No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
> thread."
>
> But you will tell us of course, that "I did not go along willingly" is
> something totally different to "I didn't go along willingly" ;-)
>
>
>
>

No, I didn't go along willingly with the hijacking. Completely
different than what you claimed.

Maybe you should learn English better.

But then trolls never get things right.


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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181815 is a reply to message #181787] Wed, 05 June 2013 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 01.06.2013 20:54, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:

> On 6/1/2013 11:36 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-05-21 12:03:
>>
>>> On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>>>
>>>> > I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>>>> > that subject up.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
>>>> you were going along.
>>>> That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
>>>> shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
>>> can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.
>>
>> In <knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me> you wrote:
>>
>> "No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
>> thread."
>>
>> But you will tell us of course, that "I did not go along willingly" is
>> something totally different to "I didn't go along willingly" ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> No, I didn't go along willingly with the hijacking. Completely
> different than what you claimed.

You wrote that you "did not go along willingly with the hijacking" -
everybody can read this in your posting. On the other hand you say that
you did NOT say "i did not go along willingly"... very confusing.

> Maybe you should learn English better.

LOL....


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Re: bug in is_numeric [message #181816 is a reply to message #181815] Wed, 05 June 2013 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 6/5/2013 9:25 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Am 01.06.2013 20:54, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>
>> On 6/1/2013 11:36 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-05-21 12:03:
>>>
>>>> On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>> > "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>>> >
>>>> >> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>>>> >> that subject up.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
>>>> > you were going along.
>>>> > That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
>>>> > shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
>>>> can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.
>>>
>>> In <knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me> you wrote:
>>>
>>> "No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
>>> thread."
>>>
>>> But you will tell us of course, that "I did not go along willingly" is
>>> something totally different to "I didn't go along willingly" ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, I didn't go along willingly with the hijacking. Completely
>> different than what you claimed.
>
> You wrote that you "did not go along willingly with the hijacking" -
> everybody can read this in your posting. On the other hand you say that
> you did NOT say "i did not go along willingly"... very confusing.
>

Yep, meaning I did not support the hijacking of the thread. It did not
mean I was "dragged along" or was a "victim".

But then trolls always try to distort the truth.

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Am 05.06.2013 16:34, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
> On 6/5/2013 9:25 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Am 01.06.2013 20:54, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>
>>> On 6/1/2013 11:36 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-05-21 12:03:
>>>>
>>>> > On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>> >> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>>>> >>> that subject up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
>>>> >> you were going along.
>>>> >> That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
>>>> >> shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
>>>> > can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.
>>>>
>>>> In <knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me> you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
>>>> thread."
>>>>
>>>> But you will tell us of course, that "I did not go along willingly" is
>>>> something totally different to "I didn't go along willingly" ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, I didn't go along willingly with the hijacking. Completely
>>> different than what you claimed.
>>
>> You wrote that you "did not go along willingly with the hijacking" -
>> everybody can read this in your posting. On the other hand you say that
>> you did NOT say "i did not go along willingly"... very confusing.
>>
>
> Yep, meaning I did not support the hijacking of the thread. It did not
> mean I was "dragged along" or was a "victim".

Thanks for the explanation.

> But then trolls always try to distort the truth.

I just pointed out the single sentence "I did not go along willingly"
and your claim that you never said this very sentence:

"Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
can't."

Yes - one can. You *did* write this sentence. Just be careful what you
claim before you call everybody else a troll just because they do not
agree. And even your understanding of the meaning of the word "troll" is
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On 6/5/2013 11:02 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Am 05.06.2013 16:34, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>> On 6/5/2013 9:25 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Am 01.06.2013 20:54, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2013 11:36 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>> > Jerry Stuckle, 2013-05-21 12:03:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 5/21/2013 1:54 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>> >>> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:knb6be$r05$3(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I never claimed I was a victim. You're the only one who has brought
>>>> >>>> that subject up.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Yeah, you did - when you said you didn't go along willingly, even though
>>>> >>> you were going along.
>>>> >>> That you pretended not to understand that isn't just an intellectual
>>>> >>> shortcoming; it's a character flaw.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
>>>> >> can't. Trolls make all kinds of claims they can't substantiate.
>>>> >
>>>> > In <knaksf$oi1$4(at)dont-email(dot)me> you wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "No, I did not go along willingly with Pointed Head's hijacking of the
>>>> > thread."
>>>> >
>>>> > But you will tell us of course, that "I did not go along willingly" is
>>>> > something totally different to "I didn't go along willingly" ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> No, I didn't go along willingly with the hijacking. Completely
>>>> different than what you claimed.
>>>
>>> You wrote that you "did not go along willingly with the hijacking" -
>>> everybody can read this in your posting. On the other hand you say that
>>> you did NOT say "i did not go along willingly"... very confusing.
>>>
>>
>> Yep, meaning I did not support the hijacking of the thread. It did not
>> mean I was "dragged along" or was a "victim".
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
>
>> But then trolls always try to distort the truth.
>
> I just pointed out the single sentence "I did not go along willingly"
> and your claim that you never said this very sentence:
>
> "Show me EXACTLY where I said "I didn't go along willingly". But you
> can't."
>
> Yes - one can. You *did* write this sentence. Just be careful what you
> claim before you call everybody else a troll just because they do not
> agree. And even your understanding of the meaning of the word "troll" is
> questionable.
>
>

Yes, but you twisted the meaning - as trolls do.

And believe me - I know the meaning of "troll". You'll find it in the
dictionary right under "Arno Welzel".


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OT: What you say is not always what you mean (was: Re: bug in is_numeric) [message #181819 is a reply to message #181818] Wed, 05 June 2013 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle, 2013-06-05 18:30:

> On 6/5/2013 11:02 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
[...]
>> Yes - one can. You *did* write this sentence. Just be careful what you
>> claim before you call everybody else a troll just because they do not
>> agree. And even your understanding of the meaning of the word "troll" is
>> questionable.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, but you twisted the meaning - as trolls do.

I did not say anything about meaning, I did not claim that you are a
victim or anything else in this direction.

I just falsified your claim that you did not say "I didn't go along
willingly" a few posts earlier, since you call other people "troll",
just because they misunderstand what you say.


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Re: OT: What you say is not always what you mean [message #181820 is a reply to message #181819] Wed, 05 June 2013 14:40 Go to previous message
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On 6/5/2013 2:20 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-06-05 18:30:
>
>> On 6/5/2013 11:02 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> [...]
>>> Yes - one can. You *did* write this sentence. Just be careful what you
>>> claim before you call everybody else a troll just because they do not
>>> agree. And even your understanding of the meaning of the word "troll" is
>>> questionable.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but you twisted the meaning - as trolls do.
>
> I did not say anything about meaning, I did not claim that you are a
> victim or anything else in this direction.
>
> I just falsified your claim that you did not say "I didn't go along
> willingly" a few posts earlier, since you call other people "troll",
> just because they misunderstand what you say.
>
>

You forgot one part.

I know the meaning of "troll". You'll find it in the dictionary right
under "Arno Welzel".

But then trolls never claim to twist meanings - even though they do so
regularly.


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