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willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185224] Wed, 12 March 2014 22:52 Go to next message
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Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
more script to add to it.

I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
What I want a script for is this:
JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
and report it.
Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?

On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.

If you want the job, you got it.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185227 is a reply to message #185224] Wed, 12 March 2014 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3/12/2014 10:52 PM, richard wrote:
> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
> more script to add to it.
>
> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
> What I want a script for is this:
> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
> and report it.
> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>
> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>
> If you want the job, you got it.
>

I can do it for you. But you wouldn't like my price.

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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185228 is a reply to message #185227] Wed, 12 March 2014 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 23:12:58 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> On 3/12/2014 10:52 PM, richard wrote:
>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>> more script to add to it.
>>
>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>> What I want a script for is this:
>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>> and report it.
>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>
>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>
>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>
>
> I can do it for you. But you wouldn't like my price.

make an offer.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185230 is a reply to message #185224] Thu, 13 March 2014 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> wrote in news:lg0vcquozms5$.h7xfb91oi8v1$.dlg@
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> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
> more script to add to it.
>
> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
> What I want a script for is this:
> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
> and report it.
> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>
> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>
> If you want the job, you got it.

Sure to be featured soon at www.clientsfromhell.net
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185231 is a reply to message #185228] Thu, 13 March 2014 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> wrote in news:15dffihyl6bzm.konabxzhkx4y$.dlg@
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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 23:12:58 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> On 3/12/2014 10:52 PM, richard wrote:
>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>>> more script to add to it.
>>>
>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>>> What I want a script for is this:
>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>>> and report it.
>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>>
>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>>
>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>
>> I can do it for you. But you wouldn't like my price.
>
> make an offer.

With you as the client? $500 per hour, with a 20-hour minimum. In gold. In advance.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185233 is a reply to message #185224] Thu, 13 March 2014 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:


> I have a database setup <snip>
> If you want the job, you got it.

Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
to work with and I'll have a go for free :)
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185234 is a reply to message #185233] Thu, 13 March 2014 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 13 Mar 2014 17:16:37 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:
>
>
>> I have a database setup <snip>
>> If you want the job, you got it.
>
> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
> to work with and I'll have a go for free :)

how do you know what I've got since you can't see it?

The table I have now consists of the following information:
1) songID
2) hits
3) title
4) artist
5) license
the last column is primarily for use by either BMI or ASCAP for helping
them when my quarterly report is due. It is optional.

I use the wordpress standalone audio player.
As it is the simplest audio player available.

you can email me through info[at]mroldies.net

Along with the hit counter, I would like to have some information displayed
just below the player as the song is played. Like year and peak.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185235 is a reply to message #185234] Thu, 13 March 2014 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:58:19 -0400, richard wrote:

> how do you know what I've got since you can't see it?

et's just call it intuition based on previous experience, shall we?
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185236 is a reply to message #185234] Thu, 13 March 2014 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:58:19 -0400, richard wrote:

> The table I have now consists of the following information:
> 1) songID 2) hits 3) title 4) artist 5) license the last column is
> primarily for use by either BMI or ASCAP for helping them when my
> quarterly report is due. It is optional.

And you see nothing wrong or not-normalized about that?
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185237 is a reply to message #185236] Thu, 13 March 2014 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 13 Mar 2014 18:12:08 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:58:19 -0400, richard wrote:
>
>> The table I have now consists of the following information:
>> 1) songID 2) hits 3) title 4) artist 5) license the last column is
>> primarily for use by either BMI or ASCAP for helping them when my
>> quarterly report is due. It is optional.
>
> And you see nothing wrong or not-normalized about that?

you tell me how it should be.
I don't see the need of creating two tables when one will work just the
same.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185238 is a reply to message #185236] Thu, 13 March 2014 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 13 Mar 2014 18:12:08 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:58:19 -0400, richard wrote:
>
>> The table I have now consists of the following information:
>> 1) songID 2) hits 3) title 4) artist 5) license the last column is
>> primarily for use by either BMI or ASCAP for helping them when my
>> quarterly report is due. It is optional.
>
> And you see nothing wrong or not-normalized about that?

http://ftp.nchu.edu.tw/MySQL/tech-resources/articles/intro-to-normalization .html

I had a look at this so called normilisation crap.
In order to find the author of a given book, along with the ISBN, he has to
search through 3 tables.
As well as keeping track of things in his code.

He totally compounds all of the information he wants in 10 tables.
IMO overloading the server as well as needless memory usage.
Like ost of you guys here in this forum, if it needs more than three
columns, create another table.

If he needs to delte a book, then he has to delte all the entires that
correspond in 10 tables.
Again, overloading the server needlessly.

In his case, I can see using 2 tables.
One for the book information, and one for the author information.
That way, when a book is deleted, the author information is maintained.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185239 is a reply to message #185238] Thu, 13 March 2014 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> wrote in news:1dz0w2tr8lk9a.1fzkxw792h5lr$.dlg@
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> http://ftp.nchu.edu.tw/MySQL/tech-resources/articles/intro-to-normalization .html
>
> I had a look at this so called normilisation crap.

Maybe you should actually *read* it instead of just "having a look" at it.

Next you should consider that perhaps people who have made a career out of database
design might understand a bit more about it than you do.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185240 is a reply to message #185224] Fri, 14 March 2014 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:48:09 -0400, richard wrote:

> IMO overloading the server as well as needless memory usage.

That 'M' being the only 'O' that counts, of course.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185245 is a reply to message #185238] Fri, 14 March 2014 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I had a look at this so called normilisation crap.

Damnit. Coffee on the screen again.
OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185246 is a reply to message #185233] Fri, 14 March 2014 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:
>
>
>> I have a database setup <snip>
>> If you want the job, you got it.
>
> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
> to work with and I'll have a go for free :)
>


I'm curious.....

Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?

Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization.

(yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;)
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185247 is a reply to message #185246] Fri, 14 March 2014 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:

> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?

Richard-baiting is always on-topic here. It's what keeps most of us
reading this group. :)
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185248 is a reply to message #185246] Fri, 14 March 2014 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:

> On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have a database setup <snip>
>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>
>> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
>> to work with and I'll have a go for free :)
>>
>
>
> I'm curious.....
>
> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?
>
> Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization.
>
> (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;)

because the master dorks in this group say it is.
php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway.
Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?
IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185249 is a reply to message #185246] Fri, 14 March 2014 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3/14/2014 1:42 PM, Luuk wrote:
> On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have a database setup <snip>
>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>
>> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
>> to work with and I'll have a go for free :)
>>
>
>
> I'm curious.....
>
> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?
>
> Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization.
>
> (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;)

Because Richard is asking for help, and the ability to do a good job on
a website depends in part on a properly normalized database.


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Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185251 is a reply to message #185248] Fri, 14 March 2014 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?
> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.

Most mainstream languages will have support for MySQL and many
other database server flavors. MySQL is no more tied to PHP
than any other of these languages.

But I get the feeling I'm being trolled.
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185252 is a reply to message #185248] Fri, 14 March 2014 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 14-3-2014 19:46, richard wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:
>
>> On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a database setup <snip>
>>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
>>> to work with and I'll have a go for free :)
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm curious.....
>>
>> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?
>>
>> Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization.
>>
>> (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;)
>
> because the master dorks in this group say it is.

i don't care about dorks....

> php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway.
> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?

yeas, i use mysql more often than i use php

> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.
>

lol, who's the dork here......
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185255 is a reply to message #185248] Fri, 14 March 2014 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> wrote in news:itrl6zzypeyf.1apf15wetw6wq.dlg@
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> php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway.

So do I and my wife, but even you would be capable of recognizing us as distinctly different
entities.

> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?

Of course you can. MySQL commands can be issued from the command line, or from a
front-end client written in any of several different languages including C#, Python, or Ruby.

> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.

Even had you made a deliberate effort to do so, you could not possibly have done a better
job of demonstrating the utter worthlessness of your opinions than you did with that
ridiculous statement.

PHP is a programming language. MySQL is a database management system. They can
function together, or they can function separately. Just because an application can be built
using both PHP and MySQL does not make MySQL a "subset" of PHP any more than the
fact that a house is built from lumber and plaster makes plaster a "subset" of lumber.
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185256 is a reply to message #185251] Fri, 14 March 2014 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tobiah <toby(at)tobiah(dot)org> wrote in news:iZIUu.3692$jI4(dot)2877(at)fx10(dot)iad:

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>> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?
>> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.
>
> Most mainstream languages will have support for MySQL and many
> other database server flavors. MySQL is no more tied to PHP
> than any other of these languages.
>
> But I get the feeling I'm being trolled.

No, sadly, you're not; richard has quite accurately expressed the level of his understanding.
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185259 is a reply to message #185255] Fri, 14 March 2014 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3/14/2014 6:12 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> wrote in news:itrl6zzypeyf.1apf15wetw6wq.dlg@
> 40tude.net:
>
>> php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway.
>
> So do I and my wife, but even you would be capable of recognizing us as distinctly different
> entities.
>
>> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?
>
> Of course you can. MySQL commands can be issued from the command line, or from a
> front-end client written in any of several different languages including C#, Python, or Ruby.
>
>> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.
>
> Even had you made a deliberate effort to do so, you could not possibly have done a better
> job of demonstrating the utter worthlessness of your opinions than you did with that
> ridiculous statement.
>
> PHP is a programming language. MySQL is a database management system. They can
> function together, or they can function separately. Just because an application can be built
> using both PHP and MySQL does not make MySQL a "subset" of PHP any more than the
> fact that a house is built from lumber and plaster makes plaster a "subset" of lumber.
>

You assume RTS knows the difference between a programming language and a
database management system...

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Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185260 is a reply to message #185249] Fri, 14 March 2014 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:18:50 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> Because Richard is asking for help, and the ability to do a good job on
> a website depends in part on a properly normalized database.

I'm still trying to figure out how the JS element is meant to figure out
that the song is being played.

Especially if it's been saved outside of the browser, eg downloaded with
a tool such as wget, or just lifted from the browser cache.

The only semi-reliable way of tracking accesses to a given file is going
to be monitoring requests for that file server side.

Mind you, I suspect RtS will be bankrupt from paying music license fees
before he gets the site up and running anyway.

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On 3/14/2014 9:49 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:18:50 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> Because Richard is asking for help, and the ability to do a good job on
>> a website depends in part on a properly normalized database.
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how the JS element is meant to figure out
> that the song is being played.
>
> Especially if it's been saved outside of the browser, eg downloaded with
> a tool such as wget, or just lifted from the browser cache.
>
> The only semi-reliable way of tracking accesses to a given file is going
> to be monitoring requests for that file server side.
>
> Mind you, I suspect RtS will be bankrupt from paying music license fees
> before he gets the site up and running anyway.
>

You can't monitor it server-side. For instance, there is no way to
relate a file fetches by wget with a browser.

I would fetch the music with an AJAX request and track it that way.

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Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185262 is a reply to message #185248] Fri, 14 March 2014 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 03/14/2014 02:46 PM, richard wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:
>
>> On 13-3-2014 18:16, Derek Turner wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:52:41 -0400, richard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a database setup <snip>
>>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>> Tell you what, Richard, you produce a properly-normalized MySQL database
>>> to work with and I'll have a go for free :)
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm curious.....
>>
>> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?
>>
>> Above question does NOT state that is NOT good to do normalization.
>>
>> (yeah, i love double use of 'NOT' in 1 sentence ;)
>
> because the master dorks in this group say it is.
> php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway.
> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?
> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.
>

Great, now my coffee's on the screen!

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Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185264 is a reply to message #185246] Sat, 15 March 2014 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:

> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?

About 45% of RtS posts here relate directly to his inability to either
produce a correct sql query string in php or to properly handle the
results of a query, a significant part of which seems to be caused by his
fucked up approach to database design.

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On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:

> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
> more script to add to it.
>
> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
> What I want a script for is this:
> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
> and report it.
> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>
> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>
> If you want the job, you got it.

Hi Richard

Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your
code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.

Let me know if I can help.

My site: http://www.moojuice.net

Cheers

Gabe
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185271 is a reply to message #185269] Sun, 16 March 2014 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3/16/2014 5:34 AM, Gabriel wrote:
> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>
>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a
>> bit
>> more script to add to it.
>>
>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>> What I want a script for is this:
>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the
>> database
>> and report it.
>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>
>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so
>> that PHP
>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>
>> If you want the job, you got it.
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your code,
> make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.
>
> Let me know if I can help.
>
> My site: http://www.moojuice.net
>
> Cheers
>
> Gabe
>

ROFLMAO! Richard found himself a sucker!


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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185272 is a reply to message #185269] Sun, 16 March 2014 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gabriel <usenet(at)moojuice(dot)net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397-
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> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>
>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>> more script to add to it.
>>
>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>> What I want a script for is this:
>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>> and report it.
>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>
>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>
>> If you want the job, you got it.
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your
> code, make, and then test your proposed changes 50 should cover it.
>
> Let me know if I can help.

Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on
www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185274 is a reply to message #185272] Sun, 16 March 2014 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote:

> Gabriel <usenet(at)moojuice(dot)net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397-
> usenet@moojuicenet:
>
>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>>
>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>>> more script to add to it.
>>>
>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>>> What I want a script for is this:
>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>>> and report it.
>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>>
>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>>
>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>
>> Hi Richard
>>
>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your
>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.
>>
>> Let me know if I can help.
>
> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on
> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.

Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play
God, Judge, jury and executioner?
A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would
capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information.
Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job.
Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around
simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database.
I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you
highly normalised asswipes to comprehend.
What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid,
hits, title,artist?
Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"?
You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an
example.

Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer.
You two instantly bash him because he responded to me.
Sorry Gabe, for the bashing.
As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds
like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want
done.

Both of you owe Gabe an apology.
If you want to bash me, bash me.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185278 is a reply to message #185274] Sun, 16 March 2014 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> wrote in news:1kd69577c1x2s.19srroret44hh.dlg@
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> Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around
> simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database.
> I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you
> highly normalised asswipes to comprehend.

No, you're getting kicked around and laughed at because of your aggressive rejection of
sound database design principles for no reason other than your own failure to understand
them.

> Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer.
> You two instantly bash him because he responded to me.

I didn't bash him. I simply predicted that he will not find working with you to be a pleasant
experience.

And I stand by that prediction.

> Both of you owe Gabe an apology.

What for?

> If you want to bash me, bash me.

That's what I've been doing.
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185279 is a reply to message #185274] Sun, 16 March 2014 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2014-03-16 20:19:23 +0000, richard said:

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Gabriel <usenet(at)moojuice(dot)net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397-
>> usenet@moojuicenet:
>>
>>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>>>
>>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>>>> more script to add to it.
>>>>
>>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>>>> What I want a script for is this:
>>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>>>> and report it.
>>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>>>
>>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>> Hi Richard
>>>
>>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your
>>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I can help.
>>
>> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on
>> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.
>
> Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play
> God, Judge, jury and executioner?
> A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would
> capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information.
> Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job.
> Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around
> simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database.
> I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you
> highly normalised asswipes to comprehend.
> What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid,
> hits, title,artist?
> Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"?
> You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an
> example.
>
> Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer.
> You two instantly bash him because he responded to me.
> Sorry Gabe, for the bashing.
> As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds
> like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want
> done.
>
> Both of you owe Gabe an apology.
> If you want to bash me, bash me.

Richard, I am the Head of International IT (which also means senior
developer and lead tech) for a large well-known cosmetics company.
Since bcoming employed with them 3 years ago I have headed up the
develpment and subsequent launch of 28 inertnational sites for various
countries in which they operate. I am also hold Certified Application
Security Tester (CAST) and Certified Security Testing Associate (CSTA)
qualifications issued by 7Safe. By all means I can be considered
over-qualified for your job that would require very basic web coding
that I would expect from one of our junior developers. I need to earn a
living just like anyone else and do not consider myself "above" any
work, I also don't feel the need nor inclination to discuss my
curriculum vitae on a public newgroup. If you still need someone to
give you a hand with this job, or any other little jobs then email me
directly and you ask me whatever questions you feel necessary to
establish my legitimacy. As for me, I don't really care if you are
client from hell or heaven, so long as you pay the agreed price when
I've completed the agreed work.

By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS
to listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then
writing the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make
some DB queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this,
just a few minutes.


Look forward to hearing from you.

Gabe
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185282 is a reply to message #185274] Sun, 16 March 2014 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3/16/2014 4:19 PM, richard wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Gabriel <usenet(at)moojuice(dot)net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397-
>> usenet@moojuicenet:
>>
>>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>>>
>>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>>>> more script to add to it.
>>>>
>>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>>>> What I want a script for is this:
>>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>>>> and report it.
>>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>>>
>>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>> Hi Richard
>>>
>>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your
>>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I can help.
>>
>> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on
>> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.
>
> Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play
> God, Judge, jury and executioner?
> A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would
> capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information.
> Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job.

Wrong. I have NEVER done any work for you.

> Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around
> simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database.

And are unwilling to learn.

> I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you
> highly normalised asswipes to comprehend.
> What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid,
> hits, title,artist?
> Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"?
> You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an
> example.
>

I'm not going to repeat things which are easily available on the internet.

> Gabe comes along and makes a genuine offer.
> You two instantly bash him because he responded to me.
> Sorry Gabe, for the bashing.
> As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds
> like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want
> done.
>
> Both of you owe Gabe an apology.
> If you want to bash me, bash me.
>

No, he just doesn't know you.

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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185301 is a reply to message #185224] Mon, 17 March 2014 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 21:24:19 +0000, Gabe wrote:

<snip dick-waving>

> I also don't feel the need nor inclination to discuss my curriculum
> vitae on a public newgroup.

Evidently you do.
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185362 is a reply to message #185248] Thu, 20 March 2014 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 14.03.2014 19:46, schrieb richard:

[...]
> php and mysql kind of go hand in hand anyway.

Yep - like any other language and MySQL.

> Can you use mysql commands without a page declaration being php?

Yes, of course. MySQL is a database system and has nothing to do with
PHP at all. There is a command line client for MySQL and you can use it
with many other languages - Perl, Python, C++, Java...

PHP just supports using MySQL - as one of many options. But you can also
use PostgreSQL, SQLite, Oracle etc..

> IMO, mysql is kind of a subset of php.

Ouch...


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Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185363 is a reply to message #185264] Thu, 20 March 2014 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 15.03.2014 08:04, schrieb Denis McMahon:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:
>
>> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?
>
> About 45% of RtS posts here relate directly to his inability to either
> produce a correct sql query string in php or to properly handle the
> results of a query, a significant part of which seems to be caused by his
> fucked up approach to database design.

And the remaining problems usually where caused by mixing up "=" and
"==". *scnr*


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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185364 is a reply to message #185274] Thu, 20 March 2014 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 16.03.2014 21:19, schrieb richard:

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Gabriel <usenet(at)moojuice(dot)net> wrote in news:2014031609345682397-
>> usenet@moojuicenet:
>>
>>> On 2014-03-13 02:52:41 +0000, richard said:
>>>
>>>> Now that I have my site opening with randomly selected songs, I need a bit
>>>> more script to add to it.
>>>>
>>>> I have a database setup to keep track of the songs played.
>>>> What I want a script for is this:
>>>> JS detects when the song is being played, then PHP will access the database
>>>> and report it.
>>>> Or maybe in some possible way using ajax?
>>>>
>>>> On the pages where I use another audio player, I set the script so that PHP
>>>> would report the "hit" as the song is chosen.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the job, you got it.
>>>
>>> Hi Richard
>>>
>>> Considering the time it would take to familiarise myself with your
>>> code, make, and then test your proposed changes £50 should cover it.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I can help.
>>
>> Gabe, I'm looking forward to reading your posts about this project on
>> www.clientsfromhell.net over the coming months.
>
> Mr. Miller, and Mr. Stuckle, seriously, what gives you the right to play
> God, Judge, jury and executioner?
> A few years ago, I asked for someone to write a php script that would
> capture certain webpages and strip it off certain information.
> Mr. Stuckle did the job , quite nicely, and he was paid for the job.
> Now tat I am working with databases, I am getting my ass kicked around
> simply because I don't know how to "normalise" a database.

No - you got you "ass kicked around", because you tell others they are
ignorant even after you clearly demonstrated that you are not able to
understand what "software development" means at all. "IMO, mysql is kind
of a subset of php."... oh my...

It seems you are just mentally not able to understand the principles of
software development and databases (and many other topics).

That's ok, not everybody is a good software developer, web designer etc.
- but then don't try to tell others why their explanations are ignorant,
false or whatever.

> I get laughed at because my simple table, is uh well, to simple for you
> highly normalised asswipes to comprehend.
> What is so damned wrong with a table where the column names are songid,
> hits, title,artist?
> Care to explain to me how this should be "normalised"?
> You guys keep speaking of normalised yet never define it and never show an
> example.

READ HERE:

<http://www.studytonight.com/dbms/database-normalization.php>
<http://databases.about.com/od/specificproducts/a/normalization.htm>

If you don't understand that, it's YOUR problem, not theirs.

BTW: This has also been discussed several times.

> As for Gabe, I won't do business with him because with his offer, it sounds
> like he really doesn't have the expertise required to do the job I want
> done.

Based on your nearly non-existing knowledge about technical topics
concerning PHP and databases your are simply not able to judge the
expertise.


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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185367 is a reply to message #185279] Thu, 20 March 2014 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 16.03.2014 22:24, Gabe meinte:

[bragging snipped]

> By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to
> listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing
> the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB
> queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few
> minutes.

A few minutes? That's something between 5 and maybe 10? For all the
above stuff (including "handling the response" I assume)? Seems as if
you are fully richard-compatible.

Gregor
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185373 is a reply to message #185367] Thu, 20 March 2014 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On 20/03/2014 11:50, Gregor Kofler wrote:
> Am 16.03.2014 22:24, Gabe meinte:
>
> [bragging snipped]
>
>> By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to
>> listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing
>> the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB
>> queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few
>> minutes.
>
> A few minutes? That's something between 5 and maybe 10? For all the
> above stuff (including "handling the response" I assume)? Seems as if
> you are fully richard-compatible.
>
> Gregor

Absolutey, just a few minutes of actual coding. This is very
run-of-the-mill stuff, waaaay too easy but I'm always up for earning
some easy income. It would probably have taken 45 mins to an hour in
total, most of the time would be taken understanding the existing
application since I've not worked on his before. Actual coding of ajax
calls, PHP handler, and database queries should not take more than 10
minutes. I mean he was asking for some super-easy work to be done!
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