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"Password protected forums" [message #8746] Thu, 20 February 2003 18:39 Go to next message
Peter d is currently offline  Peter d   United States
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I was thrilled to see (among the features list) the item
"Hidden, Private, Moderated and Password protected forums"
However, that didn't last after an install and test when I
discovered my misunderstanding of the words.

I was surpried to find that "Password protected" applied
only to _posting_ to a forum, not to _all_ access to it.

I realize it is a philosophical difference, but I would like
to request (beg?) that password protection be extended to
_all_ access. That is, one cannot even get into a password
protected forum to view posts without providing the password.

Peter d.
Re: "Password protected forums" [message #8754 is a reply to message #8746] Fri, 21 February 2003 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Password protection indeed only applies to posting and I consider this feature to be absolete simply because the group managment system can do this and much more.

Consider, if you have a forum protected by a password it means only people with that password can view/read/post in it. With the group managment system you can define a set of users who can access the forum as well as the actions they can perform specifically. Versus with password protection you are only blocking posting. Password protection is also not reliable since there is nothing to prevent user A from giving the password to user B.


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Re: "Password protected forums" [message #8773 is a reply to message #8746] Fri, 21 February 2003 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello,

Thank you for the response and I'll take the "No" and continue
my search...

You said: "the group managment system can do this and much more"

I would add that at the cost of a LOT of labor for a 100-
student lecture section that has to be on line in a week.

You also said: "Password protection is also not reliable
since there is nothing to prevent user A from giving the
password to user B."

Absolutely correct and REASONABLE. However, I am dealing
with faculty and "reasonable" has little effect in my world.
They _had_ PW-protected forums (in an obsolete board) and
they're going to make my life hell until they have it back.
They give out the PW in lecture, and their work is done. My
attitude is that no one CARES about BSL-101 unless they're
in the class, but the faculty think differently...

Thanks again,
Peter d.

Re: "Password protected forums" [message #8776 is a reply to message #8773] Fri, 21 February 2003 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you have a password protected forum you need to give the password to every user who will need to access it. With group permissions you simply deny permission to ALL users and allow it to a select group of people that you choose.
Time taken to set this up is probably 10 minutes and maybe another 10 seconds for every additional user that you add beyond the ones added initially.


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Re: "Password protected forums" [message #11839 is a reply to message #8776] Fri, 18 July 2003 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Prottoss,

also for me the possibility of a fully password protected forum would be useful.

Alternatively it would be a good feature, to allow access to a forum only to those users, which are comming from a certain defined URL.

I am running some memberzone and I would like automatically to grant those members access to a certain forum. If I have to do that manually for each user by using the group manager, its too heavy job.

Again, this is just something "nice to have" but not an absolute requirement.

Best regards

Michael

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Re: "Password protected forums" [message #11842 is a reply to message #11839] Fri, 18 July 2003 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First of all you have a powerful group permission system that allows you a far greater control and flexibility then a mere password that only restricts posting. You can of course use the combination of the two for extra bit of security. I do believe that the task you are trying to do can already be accomplished using existing tools.

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Re: "Password protected forums" [message #11845 is a reply to message #11839] Fri, 18 July 2003 13:10 Go to previous message
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Micha37 wrote on Fri, 18 July 2003 12:16

Hi Prottoss,

also for me the possibility of a fully password protected forum would be useful.

Alternatively it would be a good feature, to allow access to a forum only to those users, which are comming from a certain defined URL.

I am running some memberzone and I would like automatically to grant those members access to a certain forum. If I have to do that manually for each user by using the group manager, its too heavy job.

Again, this is just something "nice to have" but not an absolute requirement.

Best regards

Michael



What you are asking for is doable from within the Apache configuration itself. I have my Apache web server set up so that my users only have access from within certain pre-defined subnets to get to certain portions of the Intranet site I have set up and other portions must be accessed using passwords. It is relatively trivial to set these up.
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