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Button arrangement [message #13758] Mon, 27 October 2003 02:57 Go to next message
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Now that we are on the "left-side" kick ( for PDAs, etc ), how about moving the buttons to the left side???

For example:
Preview, spell-check, Create topic/Submit Reply, Save Draft

And the following:
login, send, update, reset

And swap the following since the latter two are not used nearly as much as the first two.
reply, quote for profile, pm

and I am sure there are more.


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Re: Button arrangement [message #13761 is a reply to message #13758] Mon, 27 October 2003 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, and here are few reasons why?

1) Majority of users are right handed and as such your cursor is generally on the right side of the screen making it easier to click on the buttons on the right hand side.

2) Vast majority of applications (non just those on the web) display buttons on the right, by having FUDforum do the same, we give the user something that they have gotten used to.


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Re: Button arrangement [message #13764 is a reply to message #13761] Mon, 27 October 2003 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 05:36

No, and here are few reasons why?

1) Majority of users are right handed and as such your cursor is generally on the right side of the screen making it easier to click on the buttons on the right hand side.

2) Vast majority of applications (non just those on the web) display buttons on the right, by having FUDforum do the same, we give the user something that they have gotten used to.



Ilia wrote on Sun, 19 October 2003 21:51

Inflexible standards are often worse then no standards at all. The so called standard was original UBB, which simply got copied as far as basic layout ever since by almost every forum's package. It was not copied because it was good, etc... merely simply because it was there and it is always easier to duplicate that to come up with something original.

The layout had and still has many inherit flaws, which other developers are simply afraid to break because of 'backwards compatibility' reasons. Even if a better idea came across they wouldn't change simply because it might weird out some users. Afterall, any change initialy always encounters stiff resistance.




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Re: Button arrangement [message #13768 is a reply to message #13764] Mon, 27 October 2003 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is nothing wrong with a standard that makes sense. There is however a problem with following standards blindly.

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Re: Button arrangement [message #13769 is a reply to message #13768] Mon, 27 October 2003 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 11:40

There is nothing wrong with a standard that makes sense. There is however a problem with following standards blindly.


must be nice to pick and choose which standards to follow and which ones not to follow. Cool


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Re: Button arrangement [message #13771 is a reply to message #13769] Mon, 27 October 2003 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yup, sure is Smile

That's just part of development process...


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Re: Button arrangement [message #13774 is a reply to message #13761] Mon, 27 October 2003 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 05:36

No, and here are few reasons why?

1) Majority of users are right handed and as such your cursor is generally on the right side of the screen making it easier to click on the buttons on the right hand side.

2) Vast majority of applications (non just those on the web) display buttons on the right, by having FUDforum do the same, we give the user something that they have gotten used to.


but if it is that small screen you say is so prevalent, the cursor position certainly has much less relevance. And many of the input stuff is on the left anyway. That way they could stay on the left hand side and just move down instead of having to move down and then move to the right.

And we got used to the poster's info on the right, which is where most forums put it, but you moved it to the top so that's not a particularly valid stance for you to take.

And lest I forget the PDAs,, hand-held, tablets, etc that have those extremely smaller screens - putting the buttons on the left certainly makes perfectly logical senes in there and demands a break with the standard of putting them on the right.

Times changes things.



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Re: Button arrangement [message #13776 is a reply to message #13774] Mon, 27 October 2003 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even on a small screen for the right handed majority (sorry lefties) the mouse movement is from right to left. Meaning that the less you gotta move the mouse the better, no?

On PDAs that are still relatively small market the cursor is not really there, you have a pad with arrows so it does not really matter where the buttons are as long as you can see them.


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Re: Button arrangement [message #13787 is a reply to message #13771] Mon, 27 October 2003 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 11:47

Yup, sure is Smile

That's just part of development process...



Hey, that's not fair! Laughing


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Re: Button arrangement [message #13788 is a reply to message #13787] Mon, 27 October 2003 13:03 Go to previous message
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Heh...

Then again you have complete freedom via the use of templating system to re-arrange the forum's layout so that it suits your needs.


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