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ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18676] Wed, 02 June 2004 22:25 Go to next message
Tobias Eigen is currently offline  Tobias Eigen   United States
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Hi Ilia,

I have been reading about egroupware and egroupware/fud integration and am interested in more information. Can you tell us more about:

.. the history of this, why you chose to integrate fud with egw (and not with other CMSs out there) - is it particularly good?
.. how the integration has gone? I saw in one post that you said fud is slower in egw.
.. in practical terms, how does the integrated version work and how is it different from the standalone version?
.. and finally, how does the egw version relate to the standalone versions you are working on and how will future releases be handled?

I'm extremely curious, as I am in the process of choosing a framework/CMS for Kabissa and am very happy with the way FUD is turning out.

Cheers,

Tobias


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18678 is a reply to message #18676] Wed, 02 June 2004 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ilia is currently offline  Ilia   Canada
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At the time that the integration was made eGW was one of the better CMS systems available and we were able to get sponsors for the integration process, which as you can imagine takes a fair bit of time.

The integration involved designing a custom version of FUDforum that uses the authentication system provided by eGW and integrates into the CMS itself as a module.

The integrated work is somewhat behind the main version (eGW is in feature freeze in preparation for the 1.0 release). Once the feature freeze is lifted I will synchronize the sources of the forum once again.

Speed wise standalone FUDforum is faster because it does not have the overhead of a CMS system on top of it.


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18684 is a reply to message #18678] Thu, 03 June 2004 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Ilia - is there a contact at eGW you can give me who can tell me more about how the integration works?

Cheers,

Tobias
Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18686 is a reply to message #18684] Thu, 03 June 2004 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That would be me, I wrote the code Smile

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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18692 is a reply to message #18686] Thu, 03 June 2004 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Ilia -

OK, then I'll keep asking questions. Smile I was interested in more background information (i.e. the story) about how you were convinced to do an integrated version.

Is this a "forked" version? I.e. can people using the integrated version expect to continue to benefit from new features you are developing? How different is the code?

Cheers,

Tobias


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18695 is a reply to message #18692] Thu, 03 June 2004 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They were able to find people/companies to sponsor the process.

The code base is about 20-15% different excluding the new features/fixes that were added since eGW was feature locked.


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18737 is a reply to message #18695] Sat, 05 June 2004 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

It's strange, I was just going to post a message asking if there is any cms that fudforum is integrated into, I saw this message.

Ok, here are the questions:

- Are there any other cmss than egw, which fudforum is in some way integrated into?

- Do you plan to keep the egw integration synchronized with the development of fudforum in the future?


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18738 is a reply to message #18737] Sat, 05 June 2004 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:


Are there any other cmss than egw, which fudforum is in some way integrated into?



Due to the code similarity between egroupware & phpgroupware I heard reports that it works with it as well.

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Do you plan to keep the egw integration synchronized with the development of fudforum in the future?



yes


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18750 is a reply to message #18738] Sat, 05 June 2004 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Ilia,

I've been digging around in eGW and am very happy with it, esp with the fud forum integration. Congrats on the effort!

I have some initial questions:

Does the maillist.php script work the same way in the eGW version? I mean in particular the creation of users as you import messages?

Will I be able to import phpB into the eGW version?

If at a later stage I decide to abandon eGW and revert to the standalone version, is that going to be possible?

Thanks,

Tobias


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18756 is a reply to message #18750] Sun, 06 June 2004 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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maillist.php does not work the same way in regard to user creation. In eGW environment FUDforum is not responsible for users and therefor it cannot create them. All messages are imported as anonymous in eGW environment.

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Will I be able to import phpBB into the eGW version?



no, the conversion scripts only work with stand-alone version, for the same reason, pertaining to user accounts.

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If at a later stage I decide to abandon eGW and revert to the standalone version, is that going to be possible?



At the moment no, but I would be willing to write a conversion utility.


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Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18787 is a reply to message #18756] Wed, 09 June 2004 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Will I be able to import phpBB into the eGW version?



no, the conversion scripts only work with stand-alone version, for the same reason, pertaining to user accounts.



Is it possible to convert from the standalone version to the eGW version? I have quite a few postings I don't want to lose.

Cheers,

Tobias
Re: ilia - please tell us about the egroupware integration [message #18788 is a reply to message #18787] Wed, 09 June 2004 11:17 Go to previous message
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There is not tool available to perform such a conversion. The biggest problem is once again the handling of accounts.

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