| problems with french - charset issue? [message #11224] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 15:32  |
Tobias Eigen
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Hi,
A message imported via maillist.php looks strange:
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Hi Baudouin,
Je serai contente de participer à cette conférence sur RDC, notre beau pays. Veuillez m'envoyer les détails sur cette conférence.
May God bless Congo,
Marie-Claire,
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What am I doing wrong? The message looks fine in the regular Mailman archive. I need the standard European character-sets to work on my forum.
BTW, where do users select their preferred language? I don't see this on the profile page.
Cheers,
Tobias
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11225 is a reply to message #11224] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 16:17  |
Ilia
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Users do not select a language, they select a theme, the admin can create themes with different language. So if I decided I want my forum to be in both French & English. I would go to the theme manage and create a new theme using a default template set & the French language. Then the users will have 2 themes to pick from in their profile, default (using english) and name_of_choice (using french).
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11227 is a reply to message #11225] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 16:21 |
Tobias Eigen
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Hi Protoss -
Thanks as always for the quick reply.
I have now figured that out - I have french, english and portuguese configured.
Still I have the problem with French posts being imported incorrectly via maillist.php. Any thoughts on how I can fix this?
Cheers,
Tobias
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11229 is a reply to message #11227] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 16:56 |
Ilia
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Hmm find out what is the charset of the messages you are importing, in all likelyhood they are ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15, however there is a small chance some messages are UTF-8, which is what could be causing the problem.
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11233 is a reply to message #11231] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 17:44 |
Ilia
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The solution is to convert the message from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15, you have the recode (php) extension that's quite easy to do. If not you may need to do some tricks using the recode binary (unix util) to convert the message content's from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15.
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11235 is a reply to message #11234] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 18:42 |
Ilia
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Depends of the mail client software and what the user has specified and their default charset. I usually don't deal with multi-lingual mailing list so any info I could give you about the frequency of this would be completely theoretical.
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11236 is a reply to message #11235] |
Mon, 23 June 2003 19:00 |
Tobias Eigen
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Hi Protoss -
I just did a search of that mbox file and there are only a few instances.. 2 messages over the course of the last year or so. We may be able to just ignore the problem & when it comes up, suggest to people that they use a different encoding.
I was struck that mhonarc handled it ok while maillist.php did not - is it not possible to build in support for UTF-8?
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tobias
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #11986 is a reply to message #11983] |
Thu, 24 July 2003 17:32 |
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French & German charsets both use ISO-8859-15 and are generally compatible. However, I suspect the newsgroup you've imported the messages from used an incompatible UTF-8 charset. The solution is to use the iconv extension to convert messages from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15 before importing them into the forum.
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #12010 is a reply to message #12008] |
Thu, 24 July 2003 19:46 |
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FUDforum does not offer this functionality because it would result in a depenecy on iconv extension that is rarely avalaible. Fortunately implementing iconv is very easy so if you have the extension it is simply a matter of adding something like this:
<?php
$text = iconv("UTF-8", "ISO-8859-15", $text);
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inside the import script.
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #12013 is a reply to message #12011] |
Thu, 24 July 2003 20:17 |
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That's a little tricky, because you actually can't assume that every message will have the same encoding, the actual encoding is specified by the mail client. So you need to use the headers array to determine the character set of the message, and if it is not ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-15 convert it to ISO-8859-15.
The two variables you need to convert are:
$emsg->body
$emsg->subject
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| Re: problems with french - charset issue? [message #12016 is a reply to message #12013] |
Thu, 24 July 2003 20:22 |
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Hi Prottoss,
thanks for the reply but that sounds too tricky for me. I am just happy that I got the nntp script to run, so I am not able to programm tricky routines.
Anyway, its just a few postings like that, so never mind.
Best regards
Michael
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