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My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #9867] Mon, 05 May 2003 12:18 Go to next message
Lynky is currently offline  Lynky   Germany
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Hello,

I'm using FUFForum for about a year and a short time ago, I recognized that Search Engines like Google don't find my messages/postings by keywords.

Is that normal? Can I change it somehow?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Philipp


PS: In case that this question has been asked several times before, I apologize for this. I just didn't find any postings that seem to match my situation.
Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #9942 is a reply to message #9867] Tue, 13 May 2003 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ilia is currently offline  Ilia   Canada
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Good question. The reason for this is quite simple, most search engines refuse to parse any URLs that have things like ?fdsf&fd=fd in them, because those could be used to trick the search engine to keep parsing the same page over & over again. The upcomming forum release will support PATH_INFO style urls like a.php/ws/s/ddsa/, which are much more search engine friendly.

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Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #9980 is a reply to message #9942] Tue, 13 May 2003 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks a lot!

I didn't know that search engines don't get pages called by QUERY_STRING.

But I can't imagine how to give params from one page to another just by PATH_INFO. I didn't hear about that before. How does that work? Is that a real existing path or is the one difference that you use slashes instead of "=" and "&"s (that would surprise me)?

Lynky

Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #9981 is a reply to message #9980] Tue, 13 May 2003 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PATH_INFO trick only works on Apache 1.X systems with PHP and in some versions with other web server sapis.

It works by specifying variables separated by a '/' and then internall the php script itself translates the data into something useful.

So, instead of
http://fud.prohost.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=123&rid=1
you'd have
http://fud.prohost.org/forum/index.php/m/123/1/


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Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #9996 is a reply to message #9981] Wed, 14 May 2003 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lynky is currently offline  Lynky   Germany
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Oh,
I think I understand that thing. It's simular using

format('foo '+ %s + 'a' + %s)
['b', 'r'];

in other languages (like Pascal for example). The difference is, that in PHP you READ (most likely) the variables on same way.

But that only works in Apache 1.3.x is quite annoying. What if my Provider decides in a few weeks to upgrade to Apache 2 or, even worse, IIS ?

Greetings from

Lynky

[Updated on: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:03]

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Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #10001 is a reply to message #9996] Wed, 14 May 2003 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, theoretically it should work in IIS & Apache 2, however in my tests with the current PHP (4.3.2RC2) it did not work with Apache 2. And the people I've asked reported that this is does not work with IIS. The solution is to harass PHP developers and get them to fix the problem.

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Re: My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #15375 is a reply to message #9867] Fri, 12 December 2003 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

The upcomming forum release will support PATH_INFO style urls

The quoted post was made in may 2003. It's now Dec, is that feature now available?

I've been asked to have a look at FUD and this is the only "tick" I can't give it.

Although the slowness to load the post reply type buttons is infuriating, but hopefully that's a skin issue Smile


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Re: My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #15376 is a reply to message #15375] Fri, 12 December 2003 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FUDforum has supported PATH_INFO style urls for several month now I believe as of 2.5.0 release. It is just that THIS forum does not use it.

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Re: My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #15377 is a reply to message #9867] Fri, 12 December 2003 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, fast reply. Thanks

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Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #16121 is a reply to message #10001] Thu, 15 January 2004 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Wed, 14 May 2003 10:23

Well, theoretically it should work in IIS & Apache 2, however in my tests with the current PHP (4.3.2RC2) it did not work with Apache 2. And the people I've asked reported that this is does not work with IIS. The solution is to harass PHP developers and get them to fix the problem.


My host uses Apache/1.3.28 and it does not seem to work either.

Is there are workaround using mod rewrite?
Re:My Messages Aren't Found By Search Engines [message #16125 is a reply to message #16121] Thu, 15 January 2004 14:19 Go to previous message
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Yes, you need to use enable path_info based theme and used mod_rewrite to convert path_info style URLs into their normal equivalents like users.inc.t does normally.

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