| Email forwarding to discussion list [message #160325] |
Tue, 18 August 2009 15:37  |
wittrs
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Having some issues with email going to my discussion list. It's not happening. I have an email list that is defined by the maillist rule. All incoming posts are fine. If you send something to the email group, it goes to the forum. But if you manually visit the forum and post something, it doesn't seem to go anywhere. I tried this not only on the group email, but on a test email that I set up. I can't get it to send anything.
Couple of questions:
(1) how does the send-to-group feature work? Does it use the same php files (maillist.php), so that posts should be sent to the group whenever cron runs the script? Or is there a separate process for that?
(2) I notice in the global settings that there is an email section. I have email enabled. But I did not fill out any special values for STMS because it suggested not to do that.
Can you give me some advice on how to troubleshoot the post-to-email group feature? I don't know where to begin
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| Re: Email forwarding to discussion list [message #160379 is a reply to message #160377] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 08:22  |
The Witcher
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| naudefj wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 00:57 | That's the way we've got the code and I've never heard anyone complaining about is either. Is this related to the topic being discussed?
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Yes it is on this topic.
I do not understand!
Are you saying that the fudforum.org/forum/ admin email is the same as the forums Notify from email?
It is my understanding that the two should always be different.
I have little knowledge of how the E-mail discussion lists actually work other than basic theory, but it seems to me that if both emails were the same and the admin is subscribed to a email list or forum that e-mails sent to the admin would end up on the mailing list and vs versa.
I know FUDforum intelligently resolves conflicts, regarding permissions etc but this sounds a bit too circular.
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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 Re: Email forwarding to discussion list [message #160385 is a reply to message #160382] |
Sat, 29 August 2009 02:00 |
The Witcher
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Something like that, and it made me wonder how, let me explain.
If I click the contact link at the bottom of this page it shows forum(at)fudforum(dot)org as the addy; now that makes sense to me because I know FUDforum has Multiple Admins just as it has multiple moderators.
Yet when I receive a notification of a reply it comes from forum(at)prohost(dot)org which also makes sense to me because I recognize it as the forums e-mail client.
With "wittrs" (and yes I read some of the articles and listened to some of the lectures, and found them of interest even though I had to look up Wittgenstein to understand), after I registered I noticed that the contact e-mail for the admin and the notification/confirmation e-mails were the same. And I found that confusing, but I recalled this thread which really didn't clarify it for me any better.
In your response above I read "admin addy" and "YOUR email" as being one and the same, and "list email" being the "yahoo group" which is a feed to the "Wittrs Email Feed" forum group which in turn feeds replies back to the "yahoo group" again using the admin addy as the forum e-mail client.... That is if I understand correctly.
So there lies my confusion, I have long thought of the admin addy as a direct email to the admin. "Administrator E-mail: Email address of the forum administrator." and the forums email client "Notify From: The email address that all of the forum-generated email, such as notifications and welcome messages, should be sent as. This MUST be a valid email address that you have access to." as the source of all forum notifications etc.
If there is a fundamental flaw in my thinking/understanding I would like to know, likewise if there is no difference I would like to understand that as well.
Thanks
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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| Re: Email forwarding to discussion list [message #160391 is a reply to message #160325] |
Sat, 29 August 2009 15:36 |
wittrs
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Hello Witcher.
I think the answer is that I am a sole proprieter. I made the admin and notification addy my single, private "home" email address. That way, if someone mails the administrator, they mail me. And whatever notifications go out to others about forum posts, they come from me. So long as the notification email from me never goes to the list (Wittrs(at)yahoogroups(dot)com), it never double posts. Anyone who subscribes to a message board forum gets a notification from me to their private email, not to Wittrs(at)yahoogroups(dot)com.
Also, if someone logs on and posts to the forum, that post gets sent to Wittrs(at)yahoogroups(dot)com. from the person's email that is on file with the login. Because they are already subscribed to Wittrs, it posts to the list (as it should).
So there is no conflict with having admin and forum notification be from the same mail. It just means, I think, that I'm a small business. I don't want to check all these email addys. If, however, you see any other issues with the set up, please let me know. I did not think very much about the set up. I just wanted it to be simple and work. So far, everything's fine.
Regards and thanks.
P.S. I'm enjoying FUDforum!
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| Re: Email forwarding to discussion list [message #160398 is a reply to message #160391] |
Tue, 01 September 2009 05:49 |
The Witcher
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| wittrs wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 10:36 | I'm enjoying FUDforum!
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I noticed that! Welcome you have joined a rather unique group of people who utilize a rather unique and extremely versatile software program.
I believe time will reveal FUDforum as one of the best kept secrets of the forum world.
| wittrs wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 10:36 | <<Snip>> there is no conflict with having admin and forum notification be from the same mail. It just means, I think, that I'm a small business. I don't want to check all these email addys <<Snip>>
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Of course you are right on that, if I recall correctly that is the way the install file sets it up initially although the default addy's used are not always accurate for your particular setup, desire or intent as you have already found out.
So obviously it works, even with the mail group; but should we install and use it that way?
I originally asked "What would be the perils" perhaps I should have used possible complications, or perhaps possible unintended consequences, and specified personal addresses not just identical ones.
I have always thought that email groups, like the admin and Notify from addy's should be separate addresses yet associated with the domain name of the forum somehow.
Although I lack naudefj's technical expertise and knowledge I believe there will be future difficulties encountered using not only the same address for both but using your personal address for both. But just because I think that way does not make it gospel.
I'm sure that you and your group could make some great philosophical discussions out of this but I think that bringing a forum or website into existence is creating an on-line entity which may exist longer than we do.
So I believe we owe it to ourselves to take that into consideration from the beginning.
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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