| Re: PHP IDE [message #170356 is a reply to message #170347] |
Sat, 30 October 2010 12:02   |
sheldonlg
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On 10/29/2010 4:42 PM, Erwin Moller wrote:
> On 10/29/2010 3:04 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 10/29/2010 7:30 AM, Erwin Moller wrote:
>>> On 10/29/2010 4:06 AM, Moiv wrote:
>>>> "Moiv"<spam_me_not(at)the(dot)net> wrote in message
>>>> news:1W4yo(dot)662$gM3(dot)18(at)viwinnwfe01(dot)internal(dot)bigpond(dot)com...
>>>> > Can anyone recommend a good PHP IDE that isn't Eclipse?
>>>> > I do development on WinXP and Ubuntu Linux so something that's cross
>>>> > platform would be nice but not essential.
>>>> > The best one I've found so far is PHPEdit from WaterProof software
>>>> > but it
>>>> > costs 100GBP and it's a little buggy to be charging that sort of
>>>> > money for
>>>> > in my opinion.
>>>> >
>>>> > Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your prompt replies.
>>>> I have downloaded netbeans, RapidPHP& Codelobster. So far I've enjoyed
>>>> using Codelobster the most although I'll need a couple of hours on
>>>> each to
>>>> make a decent comparison.
>>>>
>>>> The reason I was steering clear of eclipse is it seems rather slow, I
>>>> have
>>>> avoided aptana also. Netbeans looks good but again it's java. It has
>>>> the
>>>> added bonus of running under Win& Linux though. I'll give codelobster
>>>> a go
>>>> through wine and see how it goes.
>>>>
>>>> Again, thanks to all for your input!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, just a warning:
>>> You seem to think that Java equals slow performance.
>>> That is simply not true. It is the number of things and their complexity
>>> that can make an IDE slow. Java itself is bloody fast.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Erwin Moller
>>>
>>
>> Define "bloody fast". A Java program is much slower than the equivalent
>> in a compiled language such as C/C++.
>>
>
> Well Jerry, 'bloody fast' means something like 'faster that PHP' in here.
>
> You know as well as I do that it all depends on what kind of test you run.
>
> If you want to see some benchmarks, I like these:
> http://kano.net/javabench/
> Graphs:
> http://kano.net/javabench/data
> (a bit old)
>
> Or maybe the article by Lewis & Neumann:
> http://scribblethink.org/Computer/javaCbenchmark.html
> (a bit old too and also about Fortran, which I barely know, maybe you do.)
>
> Java isn't slow. Maybe a little slower (a few %) than good C(++) code.
> That isn't important. Every few months the CPUs get faster, so who cares
> about a few percentage?
>
> But this is about a good IDE, and I mainly wanted to tell the OP that
> Java (hotspot VM) is doing a good job (fast).
> If the IDE is slow it is because it is busy doing complicated stuff, not
> because the language it is programmed in (Java) is slow.
> Of course, the IDE can also be slow because of poorly programming, but I
> don't expect that in Eclipse and Netbeans.
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller
>
> PS: Please never ask me to define "bloody fast" again. ;-)
>
I would like to know what the OP, or either of you, think of as slow in
an IDE? You type at the same speed. You think in between at the same
speed. They all load a file faster than you can sneeze. They all save
files just as fast. Eclipse downloads a whole CVS branch (a couple of
hundred files) from CVS for me in 5-20 over a VPN connection from within
a virtual PC on Windows 7. It uploads my (few) changed files almost
instantaneously.
So, where does this "slow" thing exhibit itself?
Frankly, if the OP is have "speed" issues, I would suggest he add more
memory to his machine or get a faster machine.
--
Shelly
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