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Spam [message #170358] Sat, 30 October 2010 13:47 Go to next message
sheldonlg is currently offline  sheldonlg
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I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
news group showed two messages -- both spam.

How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able
to filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.

I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6

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Re: Spam [message #170359 is a reply to message #170358] Sat, 30 October 2010 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Pyles is currently offline  David Pyles
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sheldonlg wrote:
> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>
> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>
> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>
Set up a filter for Message-ID contains googlegroups.com and set the
action to delete. Googlegroups is where most of the spam is coming
from. Of course hat filter will remove ALL postings from Googlegroups,
so if you want to see any of he stuff from there, you won't be able to.

Dave Pyles
Re: Spam [message #170360 is a reply to message #170358] Sat, 30 October 2010 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 10/30/2010 9:47 AM, sheldonlg wrote:
> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>
> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>
> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>

It's a bad intro, Sheldon, but definitely NOT the norm. I get very few
spam messages though eternal-september, even when I turn my gg filter off.

Give it a chance.

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Re: Spam [message #170362 is a reply to message #170360] Sat, 30 October 2010 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Twayne is currently offline  Twayne
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In news:iah9l8$75c$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
> On 10/30/2010 9:47 AM, sheldonlg wrote:
>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first
>> look at this news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>
>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an
>> address won't help because they keep changing. I saw a
>> post about Thundbird 3 being able to filter on something
>> new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said. I am using Thunderbird
>> 3.1.6
>>
>
> It's a bad intro, Sheldon, but definitely NOT the norm. I
> get very few spam messages though eternal-september, even
> when I turn my gg filter off.
> Give it a chance.

If I turn my filters off, then I do see a fair amount of spam. Another part
of the equation is what filtering you have on your own machine as your ISP
should also be deleting a lot of spams. Spam in newsgroups is just a fact
of life and it varies over time. I got the same two you probably did because
my filters missed them but it's no big deal.
When I empty my spam folder I do notice a lot of gmail spam sources when
they're parsed (if they'll parse all the way; some won't). And of course the
Chinese and Brazilian junk too, but I have both those countres completely
blocked; all I get is a message that a mail from Y has been deleted.

HTH,

Twayne`
Re: Spam [message #170363 is a reply to message #170359] Sat, 30 October 2010 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sheldonlg is currently offline  sheldonlg
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On 10/30/2010 10:03 AM, David Pyles wrote:
> sheldonlg wrote:
>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
>> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>
>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
>> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
>> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>>
>> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>>
> Set up a filter for Message-ID contains googlegroups.com and set the
> action to delete. Googlegroups is where most of the spam is coming from.
> Of course hat filter will remove ALL postings from Googlegroups, so if
> you want to see any of he stuff from there, you won't be able to.
>
> Dave Pyles

OK. I do Tools/Message Filters/New and then my choices are Subject,
From, Date, Size, and Customize (which just gives another empty popup).
Where do you go to get to Message-ID?

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Re: Spam [message #170367 is a reply to message #170362] Sat, 30 October 2010 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Magno is currently offline  Magno
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On 10/30/2010 11:46 AM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:iah9l8$75c$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>> On 10/30/2010 9:47 AM, sheldonlg wrote:
>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first
>>> look at this news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>>
>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an
>>> address won't help because they keep changing. I saw a
>>> post about Thundbird 3 being able to filter on something
>>> new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said. I am using Thunderbird
>>> 3.1.6
>>>
>>
>> It's a bad intro, Sheldon, but definitely NOT the norm. I
>> get very few spam messages though eternal-september, even
>> when I turn my gg filter off.
>> Give it a chance.
>
> If I turn my filters off, then I do see a fair amount of spam. Another part
> of the equation is what filtering you have on your own machine as your ISP
> should also be deleting a lot of spams. Spam in newsgroups is just a fact
> of life and it varies over time. I got the same two you probably did because
> my filters missed them but it's no big deal.
> When I empty my spam folder I do notice a lot of gmail spam sources when
> they're parsed (if they'll parse all the way; some won't). And of course the
> Chinese and Brazilian junk too, but I have both those countres completely
> blocked; all I get is a message that a mail from Y has been deleted.

You mean that you have blocked anyone posting from China or Brazil?
didn’t get it.

What if there is any poster from Brazil?
Re: Spam [message #170369 is a reply to message #170363] Sat, 30 October 2010 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Pyles is currently offline  David Pyles
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sheldonlg wrote:
> On 10/30/2010 10:03 AM, David Pyles wrote:
>> sheldonlg wrote:
>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
>>> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>>
>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
>>> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
>>> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>>>
>>> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>>>
>> Set up a filter for Message-ID contains googlegroups.com and set the
>> action to delete. Googlegroups is where most of the spam is coming from.
>> Of course hat filter will remove ALL postings from Googlegroups, so if
>> you want to see any of he stuff from there, you won't be able to.
>>
>> Dave Pyles
>
> OK. I do Tools/Message Filters/New and then my choices are Subject,
> From, Date, Size, and Customize (which just gives another empty popup).
> Where do you go to get to Message-ID?
>
Use the empty Customize popup and type in Message-ID and click OK and it
will be added to your list of choices.
Dave Pyles
Re: Spam [message #170370 is a reply to message #170362] Sat, 30 October 2010 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Twayne wrote:

>> sheldonlg wrote:
>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at
>>> this news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>>
>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't
>>> help because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3
>>> being able to filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot
>>> what it said. I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6

Message-ID (contains) googlegroups.com

> If I turn my filters off, then I do see a fair amount of spam.
> Another part of the equation is what filtering you have on your own
> machine as your ISP should also be deleting a lot of spams.

I have never heard of an ISP (any ISP) filtering spam from Usenet. Your
ISP, whomever it is, is merely relaying a stream of data between your
chosen news server (in your case, eternal-september) and your
newsreader. They do not read or filter it.

> Spam in newsgroups is just a fact of life and it varies over time. I
> got the same two you probably did because my filters missed them but
> it's no big deal.

Well, you are using Outhouse Distress, which does not have the
capability to filter on Message-ID. Perhaps if you were to try a more
capable reader?

> When I empty my spam folder I do notice a lot of gmail spam sources when
> they're parsed (if they'll parse all the way; some won't).

Strange. I don't have a "spam" folder for Usenet... email, sure, but not
News.

> And of course the Chinese and Brazilian junk too, but I have both
> those countres completely blocked; all I get is a message that a mail
> from Y has been deleted.

How do you block Usenet posts from those countries? Where am I posting
from?

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Re: Spam [message #170372 is a reply to message #170358] Sat, 30 October 2010 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chuck Anderson is currently offline  Chuck Anderson
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sheldonlg wrote:
> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>

This is not the usual. I've only seen spam like this in the in the last
two or three days. Their feed is usually close to being spam free. I
suggest you give it a few days before bothering with a filter.

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Re: Spam [message #170431 is a reply to message #170367] Mon, 01 November 2010 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Twayne is currently offline  Twayne
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In news:2qrtp7-e75(dot)ln1(at)news(dot)newsgroup(dot)cl,
Magno <marbarand(at)gmail(dot)com> typed:
> On 10/30/2010 11:46 AM, Twayne wrote:
>> In news:iah9l8$75c$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>>> On 10/30/2010 9:47 AM, sheldonlg wrote:
>>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my
>>>> first look at this news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>>>
>>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an
>>>> address won't help because they keep changing. I saw a
>>>> post about Thundbird 3 being able to filter on something
>>>> new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said. I am
>>>> using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's a bad intro, Sheldon, but definitely NOT the norm. I
>>> get very few spam messages though eternal-september, even
>>> when I turn my gg filter off.
>>> Give it a chance.
>>
>> If I turn my filters off, then I do see a fair amount of
>> spam. Another part of the equation is what filtering you
>> have on your own machine as your ISP should also be
>> deleting a lot of spams. Spam in newsgroups is just a
>> fact of life and it varies over time. I got the same two
>> you probably did because my filters missed them but
>> it's no big deal. When I empty my spam folder I do notice
>> a lot of gmail spam sources when they're parsed (if
>> they'll parse all the way; some won't). And of course the
>> Chinese and Brazilian junk too, but I have both those
>> countres completely blocked; all I get is a message that a
>> mail from Y has been deleted.
>
> You mean that you have blocked anyone posting from China or
> Brazil? didnbt get it.
>
> What if there is any poster from Brazil?

Yes, but not with OE. I'm still using MailWasher to do whole countries.
That's the ONLY think I use in MailWasher though: the authors don't really
know what they're doing and can cause the user to spam if you follow some of
their instructions. because it creates new mails, phony reject messages and
takes no notice of innocent bystanders.

OE by itself is a poor program to try to use to stop spam with.

HTH,

Twayne`
Re: Spam [message #170436 is a reply to message #170370] Mon, 01 November 2010 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Twayne is currently offline  Twayne
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In news:iahh15$l4v$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a(dot)nony(dot)mous(at)example(dot)invalid> typed:
> Twayne wrote:
>
>>> sheldonlg wrote:
>>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my
>>>> first look at this news group showed two messages --
>>>> both spam.
>>>>
>>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an
>>>> address won't help because they keep changing. I saw a
>>>> post about Thundbird 3 being able to filter on something
>>>> new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said. I am
>>>> using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>
> Message-ID (contains) googlegroups.com

You can do that: check Help and create a user name/rule for it. It's simple:
Try it. Blocking won't do much good, but creating a rule from the spam under
Messages will let you do anything you want.
Also notice that the added rule will be named, for instance "News News
Rule #x" unless you change it to something better, similar to e-mail.

>
>> If I turn my filters off, then I do see a fair amount of
>> spam.
>> Another part of the equation is what filtering you have on
>> your own machine as your ISP should also be deleting a
>> lot of spams.
>
> I have never heard of an ISP (any ISP) filtering spam from
> Usenet. Your ISP, whomever it is, is merely relaying a
> stream of data between your chosen news server (in your
> case, eternal-september) and your newsreader. They do not
> read or filter it.

I'm not sure why you say that; they can apply the same black/blocklists they
use for regular e-mail. And each node handling it is identified, even though
it may well be a forgery and different inside the envelope than you're used
to seeing.
>
>> Spam in newsgroups is just a fact of life and it varies
>> over time. I got the same two you probably did because my
>> filters missed them but it's no big deal.
>
> Well, you are using Outhouse Distress, which does not have
> the capability to filter on Message-ID. Perhaps if you were
> to try a more capable reader?

It certainly does; see preceding comment on that.

I daresay OE is =>any other client w/r to capabilities. I use OE because
it's functional, stable, and shows no weaknesses. Usually those who find big
problems with OE either don't understand what they're doing with it, haven't
bothered to find out what it can do, incorrectly attribute a problem to
OE, or they are just followers because "someone said".
I also use TBird, mailwasher, Sam Spade, three block lists and a couple
of my own scripts to manage spam. Spam is directed to a folder for
investigation in case a "good mail" made it in there, and then a keystroke
sends it all for parsing and reporting. That way I can report every single
piece of spam I receive before it's even two days old. As a result, I seldom
have my Inbox littered with spam.
In all fairness though, OE can catch 75 to 90% of a user's spam depending
on what lists the users have gotten onto. The trick is to know what to
trigger on, is all. e.g. if you get prescription spam, they're almost always
about Pfizer. Right there, a 1-word OE rule kills a lot of spam from being
seen right off the bat. Back in the day I only used OE's rules for spam
and it did a fair to good job all by itself. It's not rocket science by any
means.
Filetering on a sender is the absolute worst way to detect spam. The
"From" isn't even used for any function and spammers will often fill it with
a spammed name to fool the dumbos. Just like with e-mail, unless they're
good at spam setups, spammers not only end up with boilerplate because they
all bought the same program, and many of those will allow you to tell who
the spammer's ISP is and at what point it was inserted into the stream.

>
>> When I empty my spam folder I do notice a lot of gmail
>> spam sources when they're parsed (if they'll parse all the
>> way; some won't).
>
> Strange. I don't have a "spam" folder for Usenet... email,
> sure, but not News.

Use the e-mail spam folder. Drag & drop it, use a rule, whatever, to store
it into the spam folder you have in e-mail. Or to a folder on your desktop
if you like the desktop for that sort of thing, though I'd advise against
it.
You can move/copy/save it to wherever you want it to be.
Before you go off half cocked and claim these things can't be done, I'd
advise you to try them out. Everything I've mentioned not only can be done
but I have done it.
>
>> And of course the Chinese and Brazilian junk too, but I
>> have both
>> those countres completely blocked; all I get is a message
>> that a mail from Y has been deleted.
>
> How do you block Usenet posts from those countries? Where
> am I posting from?

It's not worth my time to look up where you're posting from because I don't
care to waste my time parsing to see where your ISP is and then following to
a machine identifier. You do it; with a little effort, you can do it.

HTH,

Twayne`
Re: Spam [message #170437 is a reply to message #170363] Mon, 01 November 2010 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Twayne is currently offline  Twayne
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In news:iahcq2$3ql$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
sheldonlg <sheldonlg(at)thevillages(dot)net> typed:
> On 10/30/2010 10:03 AM, David Pyles wrote:
>> sheldonlg wrote:
>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my
>>> first look at this news group showed two messages -- both
>>> spam.

If the OP only saw a total of two messages on the group, upon first access,
something is wrong. But then the prose is a little vague, really, to be
certain what he means.

>>>
>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an
>>> address won't help because they keep changing. I saw a
>>> post about Thundbird 3 being able to filter on something
>>> new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said. I am using Thunderbird
>>> 3.1.6
>>>
>> Set up a filter for Message-ID contains googlegroups.com
>> and set the action to delete. Googlegroups is where most
>> of the spam is coming from. Of course hat filter will
>> remove ALL postings from Googlegroups, so if you want to
>> see any of he stuff from there, you won't be able to.

It would be better to move the offending spam to a folder of its own, just
in case a good mail gets in there accidentally. Then you can still check
them to see if there is any mail that needs rescuing before deleting the
rest.

>>
>> Dave Pyles
>
> OK. I do Tools/Message Filters/New and then my choices
> are Subject, From, Date, Size, and Customize (which just
> gives another empty popup). Where do you go to get to
> Message-ID?

Actually: Do you mean to say that 2 (TWO) spams are too many for you?
Actually, it's unusual to see spam on this group but no system is perfect.
If two spams are too much for you, I would have to be of the opinion that
you belong on forums, not public lists and newsgroups. You're playing in the
wrong sandbox.
Re: Spam [message #170443 is a reply to message #170437] Mon, 01 November 2010 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sheldonlg is currently offline  sheldonlg
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On 11/1/2010 11:06 AM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:iahcq2$3ql$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
> sheldonlg<sheldonlg(at)thevillages(dot)net> typed:
>> On 10/30/2010 10:03 AM, David Pyles wrote:
>>> sheldonlg wrote:
>>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my
>>>> first look at this news group showed two messages -- both
>>>> spam.
>
> If the OP only saw a total of two messages on the group, upon first access,
> something is wrong. But then the prose is a little vague, really, to be
> certain what he means.
>
>>>>
>>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an
>>>> address won't help because they keep changing. I saw a
>>>> post about Thundbird 3 being able to filter on something
>>>> new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said. I am using Thunderbird
>>>> 3.1.6
>>>>
>>> Set up a filter for Message-ID contains googlegroups.com
>>> and set the action to delete. Googlegroups is where most
>>> of the spam is coming from. Of course hat filter will
>>> remove ALL postings from Googlegroups, so if you want to
>>> see any of he stuff from there, you won't be able to.
>
> It would be better to move the offending spam to a folder of its own, just
> in case a good mail gets in there accidentally. Then you can still check
> them to see if there is any mail that needs rescuing before deleting the
> rest.

Sorry. That was after the initial download and "mark all as read".
Later, I only saw those two.

>
>>>
>>> Dave Pyles
>>
>> OK. I do Tools/Message Filters/New and then my choices
>> are Subject, From, Date, Size, and Customize (which just
>> gives another empty popup). Where do you go to get to
>> Message-ID?
>
> Actually: Do you mean to say that 2 (TWO) spams are too many for you?
> Actually, it's unusual to see spam on this group but no system is perfect.

When I was using giganews I saw a LOT of spam. In fact, it accounted
for about half the posts. That, and the fact that eternal-september.org
is free, are the reasons I switched.

> If two spams are too much for you, I would have to be of the opinion that
> you belong on forums, not public lists and newsgroups. You're playing in the
> wrong sandbox.

Each to his own opinion.....

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Re: Spam [message #170445 is a reply to message #170436] Mon, 01 November 2010 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Twayne wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed:
[snippage to certain points]
>> I have never heard of an ISP (any ISP) filtering spam from Usenet.
>> Your ISP, whomever it is, is merely relaying a stream of data
>> between your chosen news server (in your case, eternal-september)
>> and your newsreader. They do not read or filter it.
>
> I'm not sure why you say that; they can apply the same
> black/blocklists they use for regular e-mail. And each node handling
> it is identified, even though it may well be a forgery and different
> inside the envelope than you're used to seeing.

You seem to be talking about something else. My Usenet usage is not
related to any ISP whatsoever.

> I daresay OE is =>any other client w/r to capabilities. I use OE
> because it's functional, stable, and shows no weaknesses.

Umm ... I guess I'm glad you like it!

>> Strange. I don't have a "spam" folder for Usenet... email,
>> sure, but not News.
>
> Use the e-mail spam folder. Drag & drop it, use a rule, whatever, to
> store it into the spam folder you have in e-mail. Or to a folder on
> your desktop if you like the desktop for that sort of thing, though
> I'd advise against it.

But ... I don't *have* an email spam folder in my _Newsreader_. There is
no email here. I'm quite happy with simply Mark As Read to the GG spam.
There is no need to shift those headers someplace else.

> You can move/copy/save it to wherever you want it to be. Before you go
> off half cocked and claim these things can't be done, I'd advise you
> to try them out. Everything I've mentioned not only can be done but I
> have done it.

Try it with a real newsreader that is not part of an email client. I've
no need to get so involved in what you suggested. One simple line in my
scorefile takes care of it all.

>> How do you block Usenet posts from those countries? Where am I
>> posting from?
>
> It's not worth my time to look up where you're posting from because I
> don't care to waste my time parsing to see where your ISP is and then
> following to a machine identifier. You do it; with a little effort,
> you can do it.

But ... my ISP (which happens to be a cable internet service) is not
involved with my Usenet usage at all, other than to transfer a stream of
bytes between me and my independent Usenet server. My ISP is not
providing me with Usenet servers. (Or email either, for that matter.)

I suppose you could find out who my ISP was if you took a court order
from a judge and knocked on the door of the Usenet server's
headquarters.

> HTH,

Not really... :-)
Might I be so brazen as to suggest you try a *newsreader*?

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Re: Spam [message #170446 is a reply to message #170437] Mon, 01 November 2010 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Twayne wrote:

> Actually: Do you mean to say that 2 (TWO) spams are too many for you?
> Actually, it's unusual to see spam on this group but no system is
> perfect.

So then "Usual" [no 'Un'] must include the 8 or 9 that were posted in
this group in the last dozen hours...

> If two spams are too much for you, I would have to be of the opinion
> that you belong on forums, not public lists and newsgroups. You're
> playing in the wrong sandbox.

That's quite a presumption on your part.

--
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Re: Spam [message #170473 is a reply to message #170358] Tue, 02 November 2010 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX is currently offline  alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX
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El 30/10/2010 15:47, sheldonlg escribió/wrote:
> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>
> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>
> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6

It's *very* uncommon to see this amount of spam through Eternal
September. I didn't even know there was still spam in Usenet until I
attempted to read a newsgroup through Google Groups.

I suggest you just kill the offending threads (hit "K") and don't give
the issue a second thought.


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Re: Spam [message #170483 is a reply to message #170473] Tue, 02 November 2010 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sheldonlg is currently offline  sheldonlg
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On 11/2/2010 4:48 AM, "Álvaro G. Vicario" wrote:
> El 30/10/2010 15:47, sheldonlg escribió/wrote:
>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
>> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>
>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
>> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
>> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>>
>> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>
> It's *very* uncommon to see this amount of spam through Eternal
> September. I didn't even know there was still spam in Usenet until I
> attempted to read a newsgroup through Google Groups.
>
> I suggest you just kill the offending threads (hit "K") and don't give
> the issue a second thought.

Since killfiling on Message-ID containing googlegroups.com I haven't
seen a single spam.

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Re: Spam [message #170486 is a reply to message #170483] Tue, 02 November 2010 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX is currently offline  alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX
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El 02/11/2010 15:02, sheldonlg escribió/wrote:
> On 11/2/2010 4:48 AM, "Álvaro G. Vicario" wrote:
>> El 30/10/2010 15:47, sheldonlg escribió/wrote:
>>> I just switched to news.eternal-september.org and my first look at this
>>> news group showed two messages -- both spam.
>>>
>>> How can I effectively eliminate these. Putting in an address won't help
>>> because they keep changing. I saw a post about Thundbird 3 being able to
>>> filter on something new to eliminate spam, but forgot what it said.
>>>
>>> I am using Thunderbird 3.1.6
>>
>> It's *very* uncommon to see this amount of spam through Eternal
>> September. I didn't even know there was still spam in Usenet until I
>> attempted to read a newsgroup through Google Groups.
>>
>> I suggest you just kill the offending threads (hit "K") and don't give
>> the issue a second thought.
>
> Since killfiling on Message-ID containing googlegroups.com I haven't
> seen a single spam.

There many anti-spam systems out there that reject legitimate stuff by
design: firewalls that block connections from China, registration forms
that won't accept e-mail @hotmail.com addresses, web sites that won't
load for non-IE browsers... I you like such approach you're free to use
it but I don't like that philosophy. Usenet is too aggressive against
newbies already.



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Re: Spam [message #170488 is a reply to message #170483] Tue, 02 November 2010 15:39 Go to previous message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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sheldonlg wrote:

> Since killfiling on Message-ID containing googlegroups.com I haven't
> seen a single spam.

Yesterday, there were 8-9 of them; today so far I see one, with a
subject line about San Francisco (from GG). They run in spurts, eh?

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