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 Re: initial value [message #171159 is a reply to message #171157] |
Tue, 28 December 2010 17:25   |
Captain Paralytic
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On Dec 28, 5:16 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 08:47:31 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 4:30 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> $year=$_GET(yearID)
>>> echo $year
>
>>> Works just fine except for one thing.
>>> When the page is initially loaded, there is nothing in the space.
>>> I want to show a year in the space as the default.
>>> So that $year should have a value other than null.
>>> How is that done?
>
>> I assume that since it is you coding this, you haven't actually
>> defined yearID as a constant!
>
> I tried that too.
I wasn't suggesting that that was the cause of this problem, just that
it was yet another bit of extremely basic php that you haven't
bothered to master.
Your scatter gun approach to programming would be funny if it wasn't
so tragic.
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| Re: initial value [message #171165 is a reply to message #171159] |
Tue, 28 December 2010 19:02 |
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richard
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:25:48 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
> On Dec 28, 5:16 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 08:47:31 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
>>> On Dec 28, 4:30 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>> $year=$_GET(yearID)
>>>> echo $year
>>
>>>> Works just fine except for one thing.
>>>> When the page is initially loaded, there is nothing in the space.
>>>> I want to show a year in the space as the default.
>>>> So that $year should have a value other than null.
>>>> How is that done?
>>
>>> I assume that since it is you coding this, you haven't actually
>>> defined yearID as a constant!
>>
>> I tried that too.
>
> I wasn't suggesting that that was the cause of this problem, just that
> it was yet another bit of extremely basic php that you haven't
> bothered to master.
>
> Your scatter gun approach to programming would be funny if it wasn't
> so tragic.
Ah yes, we forget how we learn things don't we?
When you first got that amazing contraption called a computer, you were
such an expert with it and all of it's magical wonders.
As a child we see our friends all riding their bicycles. You want to do it
too. So the expert you are, you just get up on the thing and start pedaling
around. Never once falling down and getting hurt.
So knowing that you are such an expert in everything, I must bow to your
superior intelligence, and run off to the porcelain bowl to puke my brains
out.
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| Re: initial value [message #171166 is a reply to message #171160] |
Tue, 28 December 2010 19:06 |
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richard
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:37:13 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
> On Dec 28, 5:20 pm, Helmut Chang <use...@helmutchang.at> wrote:
>> Am 28.12.2010 17:30, schrieb richard:
>>
>>> $year=$_GET(yearID)
>>> echo $year
>>
>>> Works just fine except for one thing.
>>
>> Don't think so.
>>
>> 1. $_GET is an array and elements in an array are accessed by square
>> brackets:
>>
>> $_GET[] not $_GET()
>>
>> 2. As long, as yearID is not defined as constants, but you mean the
>> string 'yearID', you should use '':
>>
>> $_GET['yearID'] instead of $_GET[yearID]
>>
>>> When the page is initially loaded, there is nothing in the space.
>>> I want to show a year in the space as the default.
>>> So that $year should have a value other than null.
>>> How is that done?
>>
>> In initializing the variable with a default value:
>>
>> $year = 2010;
>>
>> if (isset($_GET['yearID']))
>> $year = $_GET['yearID'];
>>
>> Helmut
>
> Ahh but Richard and that other rather famous lady JRough don't program
> in normal php. They use the infinite monkeys variant. That's the one
> where you type random characters and hope that eventually a working
> php program will be produced.
Before I go asking questions here, I do tons of research. Do you know what
a bitch it is looking for a simple answer through google? Weeding through
hundreds of links that wind up having nothing to my benefit?
Oh, but you're the expert and never ask questions.
Even expert mechanics who work on multimillion dollar race cars carry
manuals with them. Why? In case they don't have the immediate answer in
their brain.
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| Re: initial value [message #171172 is a reply to message #171165] |
Tue, 28 December 2010 20:57 |
Sherm Pendley
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2010
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richard <member(at)newsguy(dot)com> writes:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:25:48 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
>
>> Your scatter gun approach to programming would be funny if it wasn't
>> so tragic.
>
> Ah yes, we forget how we learn things don't we?
No. Quite the opposite in fact - I remember quite well how I learned
to program. The scatter gun approach you're taking isn't it.
> When you first got that amazing contraption called a computer, you were
> such an expert with it and all of it's magical wonders.
No, but I *was* willing to take a methodical, scientific approach to
learning about it. I didn't just hammer away at random and hope for
the best. I thought about what I wanted to write, then, when (not if)
what I wrote didn't do what I expected, I carefully examined what it
*did* do, to learn why my expectations were inaccurate.
> As a child we see our friends all riding their bicycles. You want to do it
> too. So the expert you are, you just get up on the thing and start pedaling
> around. Never once falling down and getting hurt.
>
> So knowing that you are such an expert in everything, I must bow to your
> superior intelligence, and run off to the porcelain bowl to puke my brains
> out.
You seem to have missed the point. Captain P. isn't chastising you for
needing to learn; he's pointing out that the approach you're taking isn't
a very effective way to go about it.
A million monkeys hammering away at random may eventually produce the
complete works of Shakespeare. But they'd have learned nothing by doing
so, and they'd be no better equipped to tackle another project than
they were before they started.
sherm--
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Sherm Pendley
<http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>
Cocoa Developer
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| Re: initial value [message #171176 is a reply to message #171165] |
Tue, 28 December 2010 22:32 |
Captain Paralytic
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On Dec 28, 7:02 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:25:48 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 5:16 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 08:47:31 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
>>>> On Dec 28, 4:30 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>> > $year=$_GET(yearID)
>>>> > echo $year
>
>>>> > Works just fine except for one thing.
>>>> > When the page is initially loaded, there is nothing in the space.
>>>> > I want to show a year in the space as the default.
>>>> > So that $year should have a value other than null.
>>>> > How is that done?
>
>>>> I assume that since it is you coding this, you haven't actually
>>>> defined yearID as a constant!
>
>>> I tried that too.
>
>> I wasn't suggesting that that was the cause of this problem, just that
>> it was yet another bit of extremely basic php that you haven't
>> bothered to master.
>
>> Your scatter gun approach to programming would be funny if it wasn't
>> so tragic.
>
> Ah yes, we forget how we learn things don't we?
> When you first got that amazing contraption called a computer, you were
> such an expert with it and all of it's magical wonders.
Ahh but we are not talking about the same thing here. Your first post
in CLP was in August 2008, with a large gap till November 2009. You
have thus been "learning" php for over a year. I do not consider that
"over a year" can be considered as "first getting a computer".
In over a year, you still do not know the basics. This is typical for
people such as you and JRough who show no aptitude for computer
programming. Neither of you have been able to pick up the basics and
both of you just type any old thing and then post here when,
surprisingly, the stuff you typed didn't work.
I am certainly far from an expert in php, but it didn't take me more
than a couple of weeks to pick up the basic syntax after I read the
manual.
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| Re: initial value [message #171177 is a reply to message #171166] |
Tue, 28 December 2010 22:34 |
Captain Paralytic
Messages: 204
Registered: September 2010
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On Dec 28, 7:06 pm, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:37:13 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 5:20 pm, Helmut Chang <use...@helmutchang.at> wrote:
>>> Am 28.12.2010 17:30, schrieb richard:
>
>>>> $year=$_GET(yearID)
>>>> echo $year
>
>>>> Works just fine except for one thing.
>
>>> Don't think so.
>
>>> 1. $_GET is an array and elements in an array are accessed by square
>>> brackets:
>
>>> $_GET[] not $_GET()
>
>>> 2. As long, as yearID is not defined as constants, but you mean the
>>> string 'yearID', you should use '':
>
>>> $_GET['yearID'] instead of $_GET[yearID]
>
>>>> When the page is initially loaded, there is nothing in the space.
>>>> I want to show a year in the space as the default.
>>>> So that $year should have a value other than null.
>>>> How is that done?
>
>>> In initializing the variable with a default value:
>
>>> $year = 2010;
>
>>> if (isset($_GET['yearID']))
>>> $year = $_GET['yearID'];
>
>>> Helmut
>
>> Ahh but Richard and that other rather famous lady JRough don't program
>> in normal php. They use the infinite monkeys variant. That's the one
>> where you type random characters and hope that eventually a working
>> php program will be produced.
>
> Before I go asking questions here, I do tons of research. Do you know what
> a bitch it is looking for a simple answer through google? Weeding through
> hundreds of links that wind up having nothing to my benefit?
>
> Oh, but you're the expert and never ask questions.
>
> Even expert mechanics who work on multimillion dollar race cars carry
> manuals with them. Why? In case they don't have the immediate answer in
> their brain.
So true, which is why I constantly refer to the php manual.
A pity you don't do the same. Or if you do but you simply do not
understand it, that should be telling you something important.
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| Re: initial value [message #171195 is a reply to message #171164] |
Wed, 29 December 2010 07:15 |
Kim Andr Aker
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På Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:59:50 +0100, skrev Beauregard T. Shagnasty
<a(dot)nony(dot)mous(at)example(dot)invalid>:
> Kim André Akerø wrote:
>
>> skrev Luuk <Luuk(at)invalid(dot)lan>:
>>> Captain Paralytic wrote:
>>>> Ahh but Richard and that other rather famous lady JRough don't
>>>> program in normal php. They use the infinite monkeys variant.
>>>> That's the one where you type random characters and hope that
>>>> eventually a working php program will be produced.
>>>
>>> ?
>>
>> So you've never heard about the infinite monkeys variant?
>
> Don't forget to add, say, Googling for: "richard the st00pid" !!
> The Captain's note about scattergun programming is spot on, too.
You're stilling going on and on with that one, eh?
Whenever I see someone using that particular spelling of "stupid", I tend
to imagine a blabbering idiot with poor drool control. To be honest,
you're about to negate your own education here, in the sense that your
attempt to drag the other person into the mud makes you go way beyond low
(more of a lower life form than the person you're trying to offend,
actually).
The mere thought of typing that spelling variant is cringeworthy in itself
(even copy+pasting it makes me uneasy), I hope you improve on yourself and
rise above such troll behavior in the future. For all I know, this
"richard" may be a bastard of some sorts, but your approach in bringing
said information to the public is even worse.
For everyone else out there reading this, I apologize. There comes a time
where something like this just makes me want to let out the steam for a
bit. I'm done now (at least, for a while). There, I said it.
--
Kim André Akerø
- kimandre(at)NOSPAMbetadome(dot)com
(remove NOSPAM to contact me directly)
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| Re: initial value [message #171219 is a reply to message #171195] |
Wed, 29 December 2010 16:57 |
Evan Platt
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:15:06 +0100, Kim André Akerø
<kimandre(at)nospambetadome(dot)com> wrote:
> You're stilling going on and on with that one, eh?
>
> Whenever I see someone using that particular spelling of "stupid", I tend
> to imagine a blabbering idiot with poor drool control.
That's an accurate picture of richard. That's HIS title, self
proclaimed. He's proud of it, too.
He believes men have more ribs than women, that women don't have Adams
Apples, and that Dubai is in Africa.
> For everyone else out there reading this, I apologize. There comes a time
> where something like this just makes me want to let out the steam for a
> bit. I'm done now (at least, for a while). There, I said it.
I think most of us are fed up with bullshit bullis (richard), and not
willing to help him.
Just recently, in an other group, he asked for help with a image he
wanted to OCR (convert into text). Someone actually converted it for
him and pasted the entire contents of the page.
His response was something close to "Thanks, asshole, now do the other
47 pages".
A week later, he asked for help in finding a song. Ignoring the
suggestions of others not to help the bastard, someone found the song
he wanted, compressed it into a RAR file, and put it on a file share
site, and replied with the link.
richard's reply: "I don't do RAR. Put it in another format."
So I think you'll find most people aren't willing to help the prick.
I have NEVER once seen him say "Thanks for your help."
--
To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious and .invalid from my e-mail address.
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| Re: initial value [message #171286 is a reply to message #171219] |
Thu, 30 December 2010 01:30 |
Kim Andr Aker
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På Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:57:55 +0100, skrev Evan Platt
<evan(at)theobvious(dot)espphotography(dot)com>:
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:15:06 +0100, Kim André Akerø
> <kimandre(at)nospambetadome(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> You're still going on and on with that one, eh?
>>
>> Whenever I see someone using that particular spelling of "stupid", I
>> tend
>> to imagine a blabbering idiot with poor drool control.
>
> That's an accurate picture of richard. That's HIS title, self
> proclaimed. He's proud of it, too.
>
> He believes men have more ribs than women, that women don't have Adams
> Apples, and that Dubai is in Africa.
>
>> For everyone else out there reading this, I apologize. There comes a
>> time
>> where something like this just makes me want to let out the steam for a
>> bit. I'm done now (at least, for a while). There, I said it.
>
> I think most of us are fed up with bullshit bullis (richard), and not
> willing to help him.
>
> Just recently, in an other group, he asked for help with a image he
> wanted to OCR (convert into text). Someone actually converted it for
> him and pasted the entire contents of the page.
> His response was something close to "Thanks, asshole, now do the other
> 47 pages".
>
> A week later, he asked for help in finding a song. Ignoring the
> suggestions of others not to help the bastard, someone found the song
> he wanted, compressed it into a RAR file, and put it on a file share
> site, and replied with the link.
>
> richard's reply: "I don't do RAR. Put it in another format."
>
> So I think you'll find most people aren't willing to help the prick.
>
> I have NEVER once seen him say "Thanks for your help."
Honestly, I'm only vaguely familiar with the name Richard Bullis (and I do
mean /vaguely/), and just about every story I've read about him while I've
been on Usenet comes from the keyboards of people such as yourself.
If he's such an asshole about gratitude, and your unwillingness to help
comes from that, just ignore him, then. Nobody has said that you *have* to
write a helpful response to any newsgroup thread. But to reply to the
thread to criticize people who *do* write helpful responses, just because
the person being helped is usually a prick, now that takes a special kind
of asshole. If you're only coming out of the woodwork in an otherwise
professional forum (or, in this case, newsgroup) just to point out that
someone's an asshole, you're pretty much giving yourself that label as
well. Just let someone else deal with his behavior and see it for
themselves rather than pointing it out beforehand to provoke some sort of
reaction.
Aaaaand I'm done responding to the response to my vent from earlier.
--
Kim André Akerø
- kimandre(at)NOSPAMbetadome(dot)com
(remove NOSPAM to contact me directly)
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| Re: initial value [message #171295 is a reply to message #171165] |
Thu, 30 December 2010 03:05 |
Leonardo Azpurua
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"richard" <member(at)newsguy(dot)com> escribi� en el mensaje
news:1axql81cttzz6(dot)dlg(at)evanplatt(dot)sux...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:25:48 -0800 (PST), Captain Paralytic wrote:
> Ah yes, we forget how we learn things don't we?
> When you first got that amazing contraption called a computer, you were
> such an expert with it and all of it's magical wonders.
I know how things are learnt and you seem doomed to ethernal ignorance.
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