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Need help with simple script ? [message #171505] Fri, 07 January 2011 02:05 Go to next message
leepincat is currently offline  leepincat
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A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could whip this kind
of thing out
with little effort.

Here's the description:

1. Code must compile/run without errors
2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url, expected_response_code,
retry_count
3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
4. If the HTTP response code matches the expected_response_code the
script will exit with status code 0
5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a nonzero status
code and print an error
6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another way
(connection
refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print a message
to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status code.

Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171506 is a reply to message #171505] Fri, 07 January 2011 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could whip this kind
> of thing out
> with little effort.
>
> Here's the description:
>
> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
> 2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url, expected_response_code,
> retry_count
> 3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
> 4. If the HTTP response code matches the expected_response_code the
> script will exit with status code 0
> 5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a nonzero status
> code and print an error
> 6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another way
> (connection
> refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
> 7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print a message
> to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status code.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated - Donna

What have you tried so far?

We're not going to do your homework for you.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171507 is a reply to message #171506] Fri, 07 January 2011 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
leepincat is currently offline  leepincat
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On Jan 6, 6:42 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could whip this kind
>> of thing out
>> with little effort.
>
>> Here's the description:
>
>> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>>   2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url, expected_response_code,
>>     retry_count
>>   3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>>   4. If the HTTP response code matches the expected_response_code the
>>     script will exit with status code 0
>>   5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a nonzero status
>>     code and print an error
>>   6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another way
>> (connection
>>     refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>>   7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print a message
>>     to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status code.
>
>> Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>
> What have you tried so far?
>
> We're not going to do your homework for you.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I wouldn't know where to begin!
pushing 60 years, can't recall the last time I had "homework". Thanks
anyway - Donna
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171508 is a reply to message #171507] Fri, 07 January 2011 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/6/2011 9:49 PM, leepincat wrote:
> On Jan 6, 6:42 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could whip this kind
>>> of thing out
>>> with little effort.
>>
>>> Here's the description:
>>
>>> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>>> 2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url, expected_response_code,
>>> retry_count
>>> 3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>>> 4. If the HTTP response code matches the expected_response_code the
>>> script will exit with status code 0
>>> 5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a nonzero status
>>> code and print an error
>>> 6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another way
>>> (connection
>>> refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>>> 7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print a message
>>> to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status code.
>>
>>> Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>>
>> What have you tried so far?
>>
>> We're not going to do your homework for you.
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I wouldn't know where to begin!
> pushing 60 years, can't recall the last time I had "homework". Thanks
> anyway - Donna

I'm pretty close to the same age. But I still take classes and get
homework. Nothing like it to keep your mind active.

So if this isn't homework, why would someone want a person with no
scripting experience?

And I don't doubt you, but it really does sound like a homework question
- both in wording and function. Very similar to what I would give my
students.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171511 is a reply to message #171508] Fri, 07 January 2011 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
leepincat is currently offline  leepincat
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On Jan 6, 7:07 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 1/6/2011 9:49 PM, leepincat wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 6, 6:42 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>>> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>
>>>> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could whip this kind
>>>> of thing out
>>>> with little effort.
>
>>>> Here's the description:
>
>>>> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>>>>    2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url, expected_response_code,
>>>>      retry_count
>>>>    3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>>>>    4. If the HTTP response code matches the expected_response_code the
>>>>      script will exit with status code 0
>>>>    5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a nonzero status
>>>>      code and print an error
>>>>    6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another way
>>>> (connection
>>>>      refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>>>>    7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print a message
>>>>      to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status code.
>
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>
>>> What have you tried so far?
>
>>> We're not going to do your homework for you.
>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>
>>     I wouldn't know where to begin!
>>   pushing 60 years, can't recall the last time I had "homework". Thanks
>> anyway - Donna
>
> I'm pretty close to the same age.  But I still take classes and get
> homework.  Nothing like it to keep your mind active.
>
> So if this isn't homework, why would someone want a person with no
> scripting experience?
>
> And I don't doubt you, but it really does sound like a homework question
> - both in wording and function.  Very similar to what I would give my
> students.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstuck...@attglobal.net
> ==================- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm a music teacher by trade.
I was hoping that I could help out one of my students and show him,
by example, that he could reach out to these news groups for guidance
and a helping hand. He said he had been down this path and rec'd no
help.

I wanted to prove him wrong and at the same time find a solution for
him....perhaps he would have more time to practice. (I have selfish
motives.)
Sadly, it seems he was right.....but maybe not. There might be
someone
who has a moment to share something constructive.
I presumed these newsgroups were for exchanging information and
mentoring those who were on their way up.

If I knew how to help him with this, I would have assisted him without
hesitation. I enjoy helping people.... no questions asked.

Thanks anyway, -Dk

The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior
teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.
- William Arthur Ward, 1921 - 1994
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171513 is a reply to message #171511] Fri, 07 January 2011 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sherm Pendley is currently offline  Sherm Pendley
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leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:

> I was hoping that I could help out one of my students and show him,
> by example, that he could reach out to these news groups for guidance
> and a helping hand. He said he had been down this path and rec'd no
> help.

Jerry is a well-known troll in these parts - belligerent and unhelpful
to a fault. Most usenet groups have such people, and it's usually a
good idea to read a group for a while without posting any messages,
to get an idea of who they are.

That said, there's a BIG difference between giving someone guidance,
and giving them a complete ready-to-run script.

> I enjoy helping people.... no questions asked.

So do many of the people here - but the help given is in the spirit of
teaching people to fish, rather than giving them fish. Some people
are too short-sighted and/or selfish to see the value of that approach;
others appreciate it.

sherm--

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171514 is a reply to message #171513] Fri, 07 January 2011 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
leepincat is currently offline  leepincat
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On Jan 6, 8:21 pm, Sherm Pendley <sherm.pend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> leepincat <guitarsandk...@gmail.com> writes:
>>  I was hoping that I could help out one of my students and show him,
>> by example, that he could reach out to these news groups for guidance
>> and a helping hand. He said he had been down this path and rec'd no
>> help.
>
> Jerry is a well-known troll in these parts - belligerent and unhelpful
> to a fault. Most usenet groups have such people, and it's usually a
> good idea to read a group for a while without posting any messages,
> to get an idea of who they are.
>
> That said, there's a BIG difference between giving someone guidance,
> and giving them a complete ready-to-run script.
>
>> I enjoy helping people.... no questions asked.
>
> So do many of the people here - but the help given is in the spirit of
> teaching people to fish, rather than giving them fish. Some people
> are too short-sighted and/or selfish to see the value of that approach;
> others appreciate it.
>
> sherm--
>
> --
> Sherm Pendley
>                                    <http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>
> Cocoa Developer

Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.

I didn't realize this excercise was complicated.... Thinking if this
boy could "see" a sample of what this should look like, he could use
it as a stepping stone of sorts.
I'm forever trying to cajole my (music) students into using the
internet for the resource I know it can be.
But then, musicians LIKE to, "show-off" and share their techniques,
etc.

Everyone "learns" in their own way, some visual, some quick-studies,
some as
dumb as a box o' rocks. I will stand on my head with the patience of
Job
to get something across to student. If they don't "get it"...it's my
job to figure out a way to help them understand. (But I'm talking
about music)

I should stick to what I know. - Sincerely, Donna
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171515 is a reply to message #171514] Fri, 07 January 2011 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sherm Pendley is currently offline  Sherm Pendley
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leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:

> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
> computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.

Nice try, but I frequent the group you switched to as well.

> I didn't realize this excercise was complicated....

No one said it was.

> I'm forever trying to cajole my (music) students into using the
> internet for the resource I know it can be.

Can it practice for them?

sherm--

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171516 is a reply to message #171514] Fri, 07 January 2011 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tim Streater is currently offline  Tim Streater
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In article
<322eea30-86a8-44f0-9f1f-6e5b2b2637cb(at)o9g2000pre(dot)googlegroups(dot)com>,
leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
> computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.

You still haven't said what this script is *for*.

> I didn't realize this excercise was complicated.... Thinking if this
> boy could "see" a sample of what this should look like, he could use
> it as a stepping stone of sorts.

A stepping stone to *what*?

You're being quite vague.

--
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nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171517 is a reply to message #171514] Fri, 07 January 2011 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Captain Paralytic is currently offline  Captain Paralytic
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On Jan 7, 5:21 am, leepincat <guitarsandk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 8:21 pm, Sherm Pendley <sherm.pend...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> leepincat <guitarsandk...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>  I was hoping that I could help out one of my students and show him,
>>> by example, that he could reach out to these news groups for guidance
>>> and a helping hand. He said he had been down this path and rec'd no
>>> help.
>
>> Jerry is a well-known troll in these parts - belligerent and unhelpful
>> to a fault. Most usenet groups have such people, and it's usually a
>> good idea to read a group for a while without posting any messages,
>> to get an idea of who they are.
>
>> That said, there's a BIG difference between giving someone guidance,
>> and giving them a complete ready-to-run script.
>
>>> I enjoy helping people.... no questions asked.
>
>> So do many of the people here - but the help given is in the spirit of
>> teaching people to fish, rather than giving them fish. Some people
>> are too short-sighted and/or selfish to see the value of that approach;
>> others appreciate it.
>
>> sherm--
>
>> --
>> Sherm Pendley
>>                                    <http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>
>> Cocoa Developer
>
> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
> computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.
>
>   I didn't realize this excercise was complicated.... Thinking if this
> boy could "see" a sample of what this should look like, he could use
> it as a stepping stone of sorts.
>    I'm forever trying to cajole my (music) students into using the
> internet for the resource I know it can be.
>  But then, musicians LIKE to, "show-off" and share their techniques,
> etc.
>
> Everyone "learns" in their own way, some visual, some quick-studies,
> some as
> dumb as a box o' rocks. I will stand on my head with the patience of
> Job
> to get something across to student. If they don't "get it"...it's my
> job to figure out a way to help them understand. (But I'm talking
> about music)
>
> I should stick to what I know.  - Sincerely, Donna

If your student had attempted this and posted his attempts here, there
are lots of us who would chime in and help.

However, if you want to commission a complete piece of work, we expect
to be paid our normal rates for it.
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171518 is a reply to message #171511] Fri, 07 January 2011 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/6/2011 11:01 PM, leepincat wrote:
> On Jan 6, 7:07 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 1/6/2011 9:49 PM, leepincat wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 6, 6:42 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>>
>>>> > A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could whip this kind
>>>> > of thing out
>>>> > with little effort.
>>
>>>> > Here's the description:
>>
>>>> > 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>>>> > 2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url, expected_response_code,
>>>> > retry_count
>>>> > 3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>>>> > 4. If the HTTP response code matches the expected_response_code the
>>>> > script will exit with status code 0
>>>> > 5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a nonzero status
>>>> > code and print an error
>>>> > 6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another way
>>>> > (connection
>>>> > refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>>>> > 7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print a message
>>>> > to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status code.
>>
>>>> > Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>>
>>>> What have you tried so far?
>>
>>>> We're not going to do your homework for you.
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> I wouldn't know where to begin!
>>> pushing 60 years, can't recall the last time I had "homework". Thanks
>>> anyway - Donna
>>
>> I'm pretty close to the same age. But I still take classes and get
>> homework. Nothing like it to keep your mind active.
>>
>> So if this isn't homework, why would someone want a person with no
>> scripting experience?
>>
>> And I don't doubt you, but it really does sound like a homework question
>> - both in wording and function. Very similar to what I would give my
>> students.
>>
>> --
>> ==================
>> Remove the "x" from my email address
>> Jerry Stuckle
>> JDS Computer Training Corp.
>> jstuck...@attglobal.net
>> ==================- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I'm a music teacher by trade.
> I was hoping that I could help out one of my students and show him,
> by example, that he could reach out to these news groups for guidance
> and a helping hand. He said he had been down this path and rec'd no
> help.
>
> I wanted to prove him wrong and at the same time find a solution for
> him....perhaps he would have more time to practice. (I have selfish
> motives.)
> Sadly, it seems he was right.....but maybe not. There might be
> someone
> who has a moment to share something constructive.
> I presumed these newsgroups were for exchanging information and
> mentoring those who were on their way up.
>
> If I knew how to help him with this, I would have assisted him without
> hesitation. I enjoy helping people.... no questions asked.
>
> Thanks anyway, -Dk
>
> The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior
> teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.
> - William Arthur Ward, 1921 - 1994
>
>

No, these newsgroups are for helping people. However, they are not for
free consulting.

We will help others who are trying to do it themselves, giving the
guidance and tips along the way. But too often people come here looking
for someone to do their homework for them. This does not help them
learn very well, as I can attest from around 20 years of corporate
training for programmers - the best teachers help them do it themselves.
Your student hasn't asked here, but if he had tried to work on the
problem and asked for help, we would have gotten lots of it.

One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
paying for it. They're famous for calling me a troll and other names.
That's OK, they aren't the ones who help here. They just bitch and try
to get more free consulting.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171520 is a reply to message #171513] Fri, 07 January 2011 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Derek Turner is currently offline  Derek Turner
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:21:53 -0500, Sherm Pendley wrote:

> Jerry is a well-known troll in these parts - belligerent and unhelpful
> to a fault.

Must be just me, then, but I have found Jerry to be one of the most
helpful people around here. I am fairly new to PHP but find that when I
post my flailing attempts to write code here Jerry is quick to give
constructive criticism and point me in the right direction. For which I
thanked him then and thank him now.
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171521 is a reply to message #171516] Fri, 07 January 2011 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:03 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article
> <322eea30-86a8-44f0-9f1f-6e5b2b2637cb(at)o9g2000pre(dot)googlegroups(dot)com>,
> leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
>> computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.
>
> You still haven't said what this script is *for*.

No, he said it. It was a homework assignment. He was attempting to get
help for a student's homework assignment, (apparently) after the student
previously tried to get other places to solve his problem and failed.
The "What have you tried?" test got completely failed, and OP went on to
wail about how mean we were in comparison to him because we questioned
before "helping".

>> I didn't realize this excercise was complicated.... Thinking if this
>> boy could "see" a sample of what this should look like, he could use
>> it as a stepping stone of sorts.
>
> A stepping stone to *what*?

Getting a good grade, I'd presume. Since for any production task, the
answer is "Why write what's already written better? Just use cURL."

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of the crucial support beam to a heavy, dangerous, unbalanced
structure.
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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171524 is a reply to message #171521] Fri, 07 January 2011 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <slrniie489(dot)93d(dot)hellsop(at)nibelheim(dot)ninehells(dot)com>,
"Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop(at)ninehells(dot)com> wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:03 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article
>> <322eea30-86a8-44f0-9f1f-6e5b2b2637cb(at)o9g2000pre(dot)googlegroups(dot)com>,
>> leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
>>> computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.
>>
>> You still haven't said what this script is *for*.
>
> No, he said it. It was a homework assignment.

For some value of "for", I suppose. I'm looking to understand what the
OP expects the script to do.

>>> I didn't realize this excercise was complicated.... Thinking if this
>>> boy could "see" a sample of what this should look like, he could use
>>> it as a stepping stone of sorts.
>>
>> A stepping stone to *what*?
>
> Getting a good grade, I'd presume.

I'd have thought, if anything, a stepping stone to getting a better
understanding of something. But it's hard to guess what that something
might be.

--
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nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171529 is a reply to message #171524] Fri, 07 January 2011 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter H. Coffin is currently offline  Peter H. Coffin
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:14:43 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <slrniie489(dot)93d(dot)hellsop(at)nibelheim(dot)ninehells(dot)com>,
> "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop(at)ninehells(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:03 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <322eea30-86a8-44f0-9f1f-6e5b2b2637cb(at)o9g2000pre(dot)googlegroups(dot)com>,
>>> leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay out of the
>>>> computer user groups in the future, and buy a book instead.
>>>
>>> You still haven't said what this script is *for*.
>>
>> No, he said it. It was a homework assignment.
>
> For some value of "for", I suppose. I'm looking to understand what the
> OP expects the script to do.

That part was kind of glssed over in favor of the (homework-indicative)
oddly-specific requirements for supporting features that normally would
be either ignored or (ideally) specified by reference. (Like "following
the usual conventions for shell utilities in a unix-like environment".)

--
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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171533 is a reply to message #171505] Sat, 08 January 2011 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 07/01/11 02:05, leepincat wrote:

> Here's the description:
> [get files using HTTP]

I think someone already wrote this program. It's not so much a script as
a single command. You might need to read the documentation.

As an exercise in improving your google fu, you might have to do some
intelligent googling to find the name of the program.

Rgds

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171544 is a reply to message #171506] Sat, 08 January 2011 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In news:ig5uif$glu$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could
>> whip this kind of thing out
>> with little effort.
>>
>> Here's the description:
>>
>> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>> 2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url,
>> expected_response_code, retry_count
>> 3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>> 4. If the HTTP response code matches the
>> expected_response_code the script will exit with
>> status code 0 5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a
>> nonzero status code and print an error
>> 6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another
>> way (connection
>> refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>> 7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print
>> a message to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status
>> code. Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>
> What have you tried so far?
>
> We're not going to do your homework for you.

WE? BS!! You don't speak for me and never will, stuckie!
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171545 is a reply to message #171520] Sat, 08 January 2011 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll second what Derek said,
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On 7 Jan 2011 13:24:56 GMT, Derek Turner <frderek(at)cesmail(dot)net> wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:21:53 -0500, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>
>> Jerry is a well-known troll in these parts - belligerent and unhelpful
>> to a fault.
>
> Must be just me, then, but I have found Jerry to be one of the most
> helpful people around here. I am fairly new to PHP but find that when I
> post my flailing attempts to write code here Jerry is quick to give
> constructive criticism and point me in the right direction. For which I
> thanked him then and thank him now.
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171546 is a reply to message #171507] Sat, 08 January 2011 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In news:bf3b1828-e494-4484-ba2a-87e7e028e9cc(at)j19g2000prh(dot)googlegroups(dot)com,
leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> typed:
> On Jan 6, 6:42 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net>
> wrote:
>> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could
>>> whip this kind of thing out
>>> with little effort.
>>
>>> Here's the description:
>>
>>> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>>> 2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url,
>>> expected_response_code, retry_count
>>> 3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>>> 4. If the HTTP response code matches the
>>> expected_response_code the script will exit with
>>> status code 0
>>> 5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a
>>> nonzero status code and print an error
>>> 6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another
>>> way (connection
>>> refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>>> 7. If all retries are exhausted without a success,
>>> print a message to STDERR and exit with a non-zero
>>> status code.
>>
>>> Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>>
>> What have you tried so far?
>>
>> We're not going to do your homework for you.
>>
>> --
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>
> I wouldn't know where to begin!
> pushing 60 years, can't recall the last time I had
> "homework". Thanks anyway - Donna

Don't worry about Stuckle; he's an egotistic narcissist IMO.

That said, more directly stating your problems and showing the code you
can't get to work would go a long ways toward getting better responses. Ask
ten people and you'll get ten answers to that post, none of which may work
for you.

It IS common practice to not help when it looks like all the person wants is
for someone else to do the work for them.

HTH,

Twayne`
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171547 is a reply to message #171514] Sat, 08 January 2011 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In news:322eea30-86a8-44f0-9f1f-6e5b2b2637cb(at)o9g2000pre(dot)googlegroups(dot)com,
leepincat <guitarsandkeys(at)gmail(dot)com> typed:
> On Jan 6, 8:21 pm, Sherm Pendley <sherm.pend...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> leepincat <guitarsandk...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> I was hoping that I could help out one of my students
>>> and show him, by example, that he could reach out to
>>> these news groups for guidance and a helping hand. He
>>> said he had been down this path and rec'd no help.
>>
>> Jerry is a well-known troll in these parts - belligerent
>> and unhelpful to a fault. Most usenet groups have such
>> people, and it's usually a good idea to read a group for a
>> while without posting any messages,
>> to get an idea of who they are.
>>
>> That said, there's a BIG difference between giving someone
>> guidance, and giving them a complete ready-to-run script.
>>
>>> I enjoy helping people.... no questions asked.
>>
>> So do many of the people here - but the help given is in
>> the spirit of teaching people to fish, rather than giving
>> them fish. Some people
>> are too short-sighted and/or selfish to see the value of
>> that approach; others appreciate it.
>>
>> sherm--
>>
>> --
>> Sherm Pendley
>>
>> <http://camelbones.sourceforge.net> Cocoa Developer
>
> Ha-ha! Sounds like good advice, thanks Sherm.... I'll stay
> out of the computer user groups in the future, and buy a
> book instead.
>
> I didn't realize this excercise was complicated....
> Thinking if this boy could "see" a sample of what this
> should look like, he could use it as a stepping stone of
> sorts. I'm forever trying to cajole my (music) students
> into using the internet for the resource I know it can be.
> But then, musicians LIKE to, "show-off" and share their
> techniques, etc.
>
> Everyone "learns" in their own way, some visual, some
> quick-studies, some as
> dumb as a box o' rocks. I will stand on my head with the
> patience of Job
> to get something across to student. If they don't "get
> it"...it's my job to figure out a way to help them
> understand. (But I'm talking about music)
>
> I should stick to what I know. - Sincerely, Donna

There are many good sites on the 'net for newbies to PHP. w3schools.com and
php.com are the two best I know of, complete with a lot of sample code.
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171548 is a reply to message #171544] Sat, 08 January 2011 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/8/2011 3:15 PM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:ig5uif$glu$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>> On 1/6/2011 9:05 PM, leepincat wrote:
>>> A scripting person I'm not but, I imagine someone could
>>> whip this kind of thing out
>>> with little effort.
>>>
>>> Here's the description:
>>>
>>> 1. Code must compile/run without errors
>>> 2. It takes arguments for: timeout, url,
>>> expected_response_code, retry_count
>>> 3. The script performs an HTTP GET for the url
>>> 4. If the HTTP response code matches the
>>> expected_response_code the script will exit with
>>> status code 0 5. If the HTTP response code doesn't match exit with a
>>> nonzero status code and print an error
>>> 6. If the HTTP GET either times out or fails in another
>>> way (connection
>>> refused, etc.) retry until retry count is exhausted
>>> 7. If all retries are exhausted without a success, print
>>> a message to STDERR and exit with a non-zero status
>>> code. Any help greatly appreciated - Donna
>>
>> What have you tried so far?
>>
>> We're not going to do your homework for you.
>
> WE? BS!! You don't speak for me and never will, stuckie!
>
>

Hell, Twayne, you couldn't do your own homework, much less someone else's.

Now why don't you go back to your ditch digging with your pal TNP?
Between the two of you you might be able to figure out which end of the
shovel to use.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171550 is a reply to message #171518] Sun, 09 January 2011 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:

> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
> paying for it.

[citation needed]

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171551 is a reply to message #171550] Sun, 09 January 2011 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>
>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>> paying for it.
>
> [citation needed]
>
> sherm--
>

You are the citation.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171552 is a reply to message #171551] Sun, 09 January 2011 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:

> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>
>>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>> paying for it.
>>
>> [citation needed]
>
> You are the citation.

Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
out for you:

Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
group or forum.

In other words - put up or shut up.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171553 is a reply to message #171552] Sun, 09 January 2011 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>
>> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>
>>>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> paying for it.
>>>
>>> [citation needed]
>>
>> You are the citation.
>
> Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
> reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
> out for you:
>
> Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
> homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
> group or forum.
>
> In other words - put up or shut up.
>
> sherm--
>

I don't feed trolls.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171554 is a reply to message #171533] Sun, 09 January 2011 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 08-01-11 01:45, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On 07/01/11 02:05, leepincat wrote:
>
>> Here's the description:
>> [get files using HTTP]
>
> I think someone already wrote this program. It's not so much a script as
> a single command. You might need to read the documentation.
>
> As an exercise in improving your google fu, you might have to do some
> intelligent googling to find the name of the program.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon

I reward this answer with 8 out of 10 points....

;)

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171555 is a reply to message #171533] Sun, 09 January 2011 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/7/2011 7:45 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On 07/01/11 02:05, leepincat wrote:
>
>> Here's the description:
>> [get files using HTTP]
>
> I think someone already wrote this program. It's not so much a script as
> a single command. You might need to read the documentation.
>
> As an exercise in improving your google fu, you might have to do some
> intelligent googling to find the name of the program.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon

Yes, that's true - but it won't help with the homework assignment.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171556 is a reply to message #171553] Mon, 10 January 2011 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:

> On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>
>>> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> > all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> > paying for it.
>>>>
>>>> [citation needed]
>>>
>>> You are the citation.
>>
>> Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
>> reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
>> out for you:
>>
>> Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
>> homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
>> group or forum.
>>
>> In other words - put up or shut up.
>
> I don't feed trolls.

Couldn't find any links, could you? Desperate to change the subject so
you don't have to deal with the fact that you lied?

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171557 is a reply to message #171556] Mon, 10 January 2011 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/9/2011 9:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>
>> On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> > Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> >> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> >> paying for it.
>>>> >
>>>> > [citation needed]
>>>>
>>>> You are the citation.
>>> u
>>> Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
>>> reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
>>> out for you:
>>>
>>> Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
>>> homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
>>> group or forum.
>>>
>>> In other words - put up or shut up.
>>
>> I don't feed trolls.
>
> Couldn't find any links, could you? Desperate to change the subject so
> you don't have to deal with the fact that you lied?
>
> sherm--
>

Nope. I don't feed the trolls. And you are almost as bad as TNP and
Twayne.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171560 is a reply to message #171557] Mon, 10 January 2011 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:

> On 1/9/2011 9:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>
>>> On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> >>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> >>> paying for it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [citation needed]
>>>> >
>>>> > You are the citation.
>>>> u
>>>> Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
>>>> reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
>>>> out for you:
>>>>
>>>> Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
>>>> homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
>>>> group or forum.
>>>>
>>>> In other words - put up or shut up.
>>>
>>> I don't feed trolls.
>>
>> Couldn't find any links, could you? Desperate to change the subject so
>> you don't have to deal with the fact that you lied?
>
> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.

I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to substantiate
his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.

Any questions?

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171561 is a reply to message #171560] Mon, 10 January 2011 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>
>> On 1/9/2011 9:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> > Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> >>>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> >>>> paying for it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> [citation needed]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You are the citation.
>>>> > u
>>>> > Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
>>>> > reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
>>>> > out for you:
>>>> >
>>>> > Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
>>>> > homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
>>>> > group or forum.
>>>> >
>>>> > In other words - put up or shut up.
>>>>
>>>> I don't feed trolls.
>>>
>>> Couldn't find any links, could you? Desperate to change the subject so
>>> you don't have to deal with the fact that you lied?
>>
>> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>
> I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to substantiate
> his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>
> Any questions?
>
> sherm--
>

I don't feed the trolls. And next to TNP and Twayne, you're one of the
biggest trolls in this newsgroup.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171562 is a reply to message #171561] Mon, 10 January 2011 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 10-01-11 14:46, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>>
>> I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to substantiate
>> his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>>
>> Any questions?
>>
>> sherm--
>>
>
> I don't feed the trolls. And next to TNP and Twayne, you're one of the
> biggest trolls in this newsgroup.
>

you are repeating yourself.....


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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171563 is a reply to message #171562] Mon, 10 January 2011 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/10/2011 9:06 AM, Luuk wrote:
> On 10-01-11 14:46, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>>>
>>> I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to substantiate
>>> his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>>>
>>> Any questions?
>>>
>>> sherm--
>>>
>>
>> I don't feed the trolls. And next to TNP and Twayne, you're one of the
>> biggest trolls in this newsgroup.
>>
>
> you are repeating yourself.....
>
>

Yup, its the only thing some trolls understand.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171564 is a reply to message #171561] Mon, 10 January 2011 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:

> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>
>>> On 1/9/2011 9:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> >>>>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> >>>>> paying for it.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> [citation needed]
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You are the citation.
>>>> >> u
>>>> >> Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
>>>> >> reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
>>>> >> out for you:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
>>>> >> homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
>>>> >> group or forum.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In other words - put up or shut up.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't feed trolls.
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't find any links, could you? Desperate to change the subject so
>>>> you don't have to deal with the fact that you lied?
>>>
>>> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>>
>> I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to substantiate
>> his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>>
>> Any questions?
>
> I don't feed the trolls.

So, by replying to me, you're admitting that I'm not a troll. By your
own standard, if you considered me a troll you wouldn't be replying.

sherm--

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171565 is a reply to message #171563] Mon, 10 January 2011 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Luuk is currently offline  Luuk
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On 10-01-11 15:45, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/10/2011 9:06 AM, Luuk wrote:
>> On 10-01-11 14:46, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> > Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>>>>
>>>> I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to
>>>> substantiate
>>>> his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>>>>
>>>> Any questions?
>>>>
>>>> sherm--
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't feed the trolls. And next to TNP and Twayne, you're one of the
>>> biggest trolls in this newsgroup.
>>>
>>
>> you are repeating yourself.....
>>
>>
>
> Yup, its the only thing some trolls understand.
>

i think its the only thing trolls do... ;)

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Luuk
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171567 is a reply to message #171564] Mon, 10 January 2011 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/10/2011 9:53 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>
>> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/2011 9:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> > Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> One other thing - there are some like Sherm who think they should get
>>>> >>>>>> all the free consulting help they want from this newsgroup instead of
>>>> >>>>>> paying for it.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> [citation needed]
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You are the citation.
>>>> >>> u
>>>> >>> Since you seem to have missed the point of my (admittedly rather glib)
>>>> >>> reference to unsubstantiated claims made on Wikipedia, I'll spell it
>>>> >>> out for you:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Please provide a link to *any* request from me for free consulting,
>>>> >>> homework solutions, or even an answer to any FAQs, in this or any other
>>>> >>> group or forum.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In other words - put up or shut up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't feed trolls.
>>>> >
>>>> > Couldn't find any links, could you? Desperate to change the subject so
>>>> > you don't have to deal with the fact that you lied?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>>>
>>> I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to substantiate
>>> his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>>>
>>> Any questions?
>>
>> I don't feed the trolls.
>
> So, by replying to me, you're admitting that I'm not a troll. By your
> own standard, if you considered me a troll you wouldn't be replying.
>
> sherm--
>

No, I don't feed the trolls. Replying to you is not admitting you are
not a troll. Your logic is flawed. But then most troll's logic is flawed.

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171569 is a reply to message #171565] Mon, 10 January 2011 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Natural Philosoph is currently offline  The Natural Philosoph
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Luuk wrote:
> On 10-01-11 15:45, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/10/2011 9:06 AM, Luuk wrote:
>>> On 10-01-11 14:46, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> > Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >> Nope. I don't feed the trolls.
>>>> > I rest my case - Jerry Stuckle is a liar, and when pushed to
>>>> > substantiate
>>>> > his lies, does nothing but respond with childish name-calling.
>>>> >
>>>> > Any questions?
>>>> >
>>>> > sherm--
>>>> >
>>>> I don't feed the trolls. And next to TNP and Twayne, you're one of the
>>>> biggest trolls in this newsgroup.
>>>>
>>> you are repeating yourself.....
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, its the only thing some trolls understand.
>>
>
> i think its the only thing trolls do... ;)
>
No, Jerry's definition of a troll is someone who disagrees with him. A
really bad troll is someone who not only disagrees, but shows him
objectively to be talking out of his arse.

Which once you get him off a very narrow range of topics, is all he does.
Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171571 is a reply to message #171569] Mon, 10 January 2011 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sherm Pendley is currently offline  Sherm Pendley
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> writes:

> No, Jerry's definition of a troll is someone who disagrees with him. A
> really bad troll is someone who not only disagrees, but shows him
> objectively to be talking out of his arse.

I'll wear that badge proudly. :-)

sherm--

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Re: Need help with simple script ? [message #171604 is a reply to message #171564] Tue, 11 January 2011 22:39 Go to previous message
Felix Saphir is currently offline  Felix Saphir
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Sherm Pendley <sherm(dot)pendley(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>> On 1/10/2011 8:04 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> On 1/9/2011 9:39 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> > Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >> On 1/9/2011 2:01 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>>> >>>> On 1/9/2011 10:57 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> writes:
>>
>> I don't feed the trolls.
>
> So, by replying to me, you're admitting that I'm not a troll.
> By your own standard, if you considered me a troll you
> wouldn't be replying.

Sherm,

would you care to join Jerry in my filter? He's really lonely in
there, and I think you two would be a perfect match! What do you
think?

Felix
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