| How stupid ARE people? [message #173711] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 19:14  |
Joe Snodgrass
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After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
locations, I can't believe that
1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
to be made, genius!
2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
under their control, or else.
Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
they get their shot every half hour.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173712 is a reply to message #173711] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 19:48  |
Deeyana
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:14:58 -0700, Joe Snodgrass wrote:
> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
> locations, I can't believe that
>
> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking and
> corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money to be
> made, genius!
>
> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>
> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
> under their control, or else.
>
> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as they
> get their shot every half hour.
What does any of that have to do with Java, C++, or PHP, Snodgrass?
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173714 is a reply to message #173712] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 23:03 |
David Lamb
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On 30/04/2011 3:48 PM, Deeyana wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:14:58 -0700, Joe Snodgrass wrote:
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>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
>> locations, I can't believe that
>>
>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking and
>> corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money to be
>> made, genius!
> What does any of that have to do with Java, C++, or PHP, Snodgrass?
Perhaps we can help the OP learn some systems design? Making location
tracking impossible means no app-readable GPS, which eliminates so many
useful apps nobody would buy said smartphone.
Does any smartphone use php?
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173715 is a reply to message #173714] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 23:26 |
Twayne
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In news:1z0vp.5524$Du7(dot)4253(at)newsfe04(dot)iad,
David Lamb <dalamb(at)cs(dot)queensu(dot)ca> typed:
> On 30/04/2011 3:48 PM, Deeyana wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:14:58 -0700, Joe Snodgrass wrote:
>>
>>> After all the scary news about smart phones
>>> broadcasting people's locations, I can't believe that
>>>
>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no
>>> location tracking and corner the market on people who
>>> want no part of it. There's money to be made, genius!
>> What does any of that have to do with Java, C++, or PHP,
>> Snodgrass?
>
> Perhaps we can help the OP learn some systems design?
> Making location tracking impossible means no app-readable
> GPS, which eliminates so many useful apps nobody would
> buy said smartphone.
> Does any smartphone use php?
Don't see why not. PHP runs server-side, not client side. It's the website
that determines whether PHP runs or not and it has nothing to do wth the
client side, or smartfone.
HTH,
Twayne`
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173716 is a reply to message #173715] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 00:08 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/30/2011 7:26 PM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:1z0vp.5524$Du7(dot)4253(at)newsfe04(dot)iad,
> David Lamb<dalamb(at)cs(dot)queensu(dot)ca> typed:
>> On 30/04/2011 3:48 PM, Deeyana wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:14:58 -0700, Joe Snodgrass wrote:
>>>
>>>> After all the scary news about smart phones
>>>> broadcasting people's locations, I can't believe that
>>>>
>>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no
>>>> location tracking and corner the market on people who
>>>> want no part of it. There's money to be made, genius!
>>> What does any of that have to do with Java, C++, or PHP,
>>> Snodgrass?
>>
>> Perhaps we can help the OP learn some systems design?
>> Making location tracking impossible means no app-readable
>> GPS, which eliminates so many useful apps nobody would
>> buy said smartphone.
>> Does any smartphone use php?
>
> Don't see why not. PHP runs server-side, not client side. It's the website
> that determines whether PHP runs or not and it has nothing to do wth the
> client side, or smartfone.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
Incorrect. PHP scripts can easily run on the client.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173717 is a reply to message #173711] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 00:27 |
jimp
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In comp.lang.php Joe Snodgrass <joe(dot)snod(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
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> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
> locations, I can't believe that
>
> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
> to be made, genius!
>
> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>
> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
> under their control, or else.
>
> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
> they get their shot every half hour.
The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace
cell phone calls to a location since 2005.
You can thank 9/11 for that rule.
Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional.
The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in
the fines and penalties you will get for selling it.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173721 is a reply to message #173719] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 13:15 |
David Lamb
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On 01/05/2011 1:27 AM, Unrest wrote:
> Indeed. "PHP4Android" on "Scripting Layer for Android".
So, even an originally-off-topic posting can lead to (some of) us
learning something.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173722 is a reply to message #173721] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 13:28 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 5/1/2011 9:15 AM, David Lamb wrote:
> On 01/05/2011 1:27 AM, Unrest wrote:
>> Indeed. "PHP4Android" on "Scripting Layer for Android".
>
> So, even an originally-off-topic posting can lead to (some of) us
> learning something.
Not really. If you wanted to know that PHP was available for Android, a
quick search would tell you. And if you don't need to know, you
probably don't care.
It's no reason to clutter up a newsgroup with off-topic crap.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173739 is a reply to message #173716] |
Mon, 02 May 2011 16:11 |
Twayne
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In news:ipi8ac$ufm$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
> On 4/30/2011 7:26 PM, Twayne wrote:
>> In news:1z0vp.5524$Du7(dot)4253(at)newsfe04(dot)iad,
>> David Lamb<dalamb(at)cs(dot)queensu(dot)ca> typed:
>>> On 30/04/2011 3:48 PM, Deeyana wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:14:58 -0700, Joe Snodgrass
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > After all the scary news about smart phones
>>>> > broadcasting people's locations, I can't believe that
>>>> >
>>>> > 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no
>>>> > location tracking and corner the market on people who
>>>> > want no part of it. There's money to be made, genius!
>>>> What does any of that have to do with Java, C++, or
>>>> PHP, Snodgrass?
>>>
>>> Perhaps we can help the OP learn some systems design?
>>> Making location tracking impossible means no
>>> app-readable GPS, which eliminates so many useful apps
>>> nobody would buy said smartphone.
>>> Does any smartphone use php?
>>
>> Don't see why not. PHP runs server-side, not client
>> side. It's the website that determines whether PHP runs
>> or not and it has nothing to do wth the client side, or
>> smartfone. HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`
>>
>>
>
> Incorrect. PHP scripts can easily run on the client.
Your half-misinformation does no one any good, including yourself. Without
PHP and a server present, which is the norm for many people, what happens
then? They'll still run the PHP? I don't THINK so!
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173741 is a reply to message #173739] |
Mon, 02 May 2011 16:18 |
Tim Streater
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In article <ipml3r$7bg$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
"Twayne" <nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
> In news:ipi8ac$ufm$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>> On 4/30/2011 7:26 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>> In news:1z0vp.5524$Du7(dot)4253(at)newsfe04(dot)iad,
>>> David Lamb<dalamb(at)cs(dot)queensu(dot)ca> typed:
>>>> On 30/04/2011 3:48 PM, Deeyana wrote:
>>>> > On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:14:58 -0700, Joe Snodgrass
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> After all the scary news about smart phones
>>>> >> broadcasting people's locations, I can't believe that
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no
>>>> >> location tracking and corner the market on people who
>>>> >> want no part of it. There's money to be made, genius!
>>>> > What does any of that have to do with Java, C++, or
>>>> > PHP, Snodgrass?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we can help the OP learn some systems design?
>>>> Making location tracking impossible means no
>>>> app-readable GPS, which eliminates so many useful apps
>>>> nobody would buy said smartphone.
>>>> Does any smartphone use php?
>>>
>>> Don't see why not. PHP runs server-side, not client
>>> side. It's the website that determines whether PHP runs
>>> or not and it has nothing to do wth the client side, or
>>> smartfone. HTH,
>> Incorrect. PHP scripts can easily run on the client.
>
> Your half-misinformation does no one any good, including yourself. Without
> PHP and a server present, which is the norm for many people, what happens
> then? They'll still run the PHP? I don't THINK so!
Why would PHP not be available on my own machine. I run PHP scripts all
the time.
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Tim
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173742 is a reply to message #173739] |
Mon, 02 May 2011 16:45 |
Michael Fesser
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.oO(Twayne)
> In news:ipi8ac$ufm$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>>
>> Incorrect. PHP scripts can easily run on the client.
>
> Your half-misinformation does no one any good, including yourself. Without
> PHP and a server present, which is the norm for many people, what happens
> then? They'll still run the PHP? I don't THINK so!
You can use PHP for many more things, which don't require a webserver.
Micha
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173758 is a reply to message #173717] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 13:33 |
Joe Snodgrass
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On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
>> locations, I can't believe that
>
>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
>> to be made, genius!
>
>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>
>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
>> under their control, or else.
>
>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
>> they get their shot every half hour.
>
> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace
> cell phone calls to a location since 2005.
>
> You can thank 9/11 for that rule.
>
> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional.
>
> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in
> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it.
Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I
suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so
you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I
wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or
if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173759 is a reply to message #173758] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 13:55 |
ootiib
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On May 3, 4:33 pm, Joe Snodgrass <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
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>> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
>>> locations, I can't believe that
>
>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
>>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
>>> to be made, genius!
>
>>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
>>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>
>>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
>>> under their control, or else.
>
>>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
>>> they get their shot every half hour.
>
>> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace
>> cell phone calls to a location since 2005.
>
>> You can thank 9/11 for that rule.
>
>> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional.
>
>> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in
>> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it.
>
> Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I
> suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so
> you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I
> wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or
> if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD.
Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of
tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you
with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you
are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you?
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173760 is a reply to message #173741] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 14:33 |
Twayne
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In news:timstreater-732456(dot)17181402052011(at)news(dot)individual(dot)net,
Tim Streater <timstreater(at)waitrose(dot)com> typed:
> In article <ipml3r$7bg$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> "Twayne" <nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
>
....
>
> Why would PHP not be available on my own machine. I run
> PHP scripts all the time.
I can't really say since you gave no information at all. A lot of 'nix
bundles might include it but Windows for instance does not. And unless you
have installed a server installed locally on your machine, PHP scripts are
not running on your machine. All you'll get when it runs is a page showing
the PHP script, but no PHP results. Once you're into production mode, then
the PHP is running on whatever server you are using for your production
site/s.
So you have actually not said anything but a few words with nothing to
describe what you're doing. That of course if of absolutely no use to
newbies and the inexperienced users looking to get into PHP programming.
HTH,
Twayne`
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173761 is a reply to message #173759] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 15:21 |
The Natural Philosoph
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Öö Tiib wrote:
> On May 3, 4:33 pm, Joe Snodgrass <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
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>>> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
>>>> locations, I can't believe that
>>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
>>>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
>>>> to be made, genius!
>>>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
>>>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>>>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
>>>> under their control, or else.
>>>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
>>>> they get their shot every half hour.
>>> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace
>>> cell phone calls to a location since 2005.
>>> You can thank 9/11 for that rule.
>>> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional.
>>> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in
>>> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it.
>> Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I
>> suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so
>> you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I
>> wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or
>> if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD.
>
> Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of
> tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you
> with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you
> are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you?
Magic? :-)
the answer is of course not to carry a mobile that is switched on...if
you don't want to be tracked.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173762 is a reply to message #173760] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 15:58 |
Tim Streater
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In article <ipp3or$fj0$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
"Twayne" <nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
> In news:timstreater-732456(dot)17181402052011(at)news(dot)individual(dot)net,
> Tim Streater <timstreater(at)waitrose(dot)com> typed:
>> In article <ipml3r$7bg$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>> "Twayne" <nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
>> Why would PHP not be available on my own machine. I run
>> PHP scripts all the time.
>
> I can't really say since you gave no information at all. A lot of 'nix
> bundles might include it but Windows for instance does not. And unless you
> have installed a server installed locally on your machine, PHP scripts are
> not running on your machine. All you'll get when it runs is a page showing
> the PHP script, but no PHP results. Once you're into production mode, then
> the PHP is running on whatever server you are using for your production
> site/s.
> So you have actually not said anything but a few words with nothing to
> describe what you're doing. That of course if of absolutely no use to
> newbies and the inexperienced users looking to get into PHP programming.
OK, I'll add a few words to the second sentence, and a third sentence:
I run PHP scripts from the command prompt all the time. I can do this
whether or apache happens to be running at that moment (in fact it
usually is since an instance of apache is a component of my email
client, but the command line scripts, of course, don't care about that).
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nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173763 is a reply to message #173758] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 16:48 |
jimp
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In comp.lang.php Joe Snodgrass <joe(dot)snod(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
>>> locations, I can't believe that
>>
>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
>>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
>>> to be made, genius!
>>
>>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
>>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>>
>>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
>>> under their control, or else.
>>
>>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
>>> they get their shot every half hour.
>>
>> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace
>> cell phone calls to a location since 2005.
>>
>> You can thank 9/11 for that rule.
>>
>> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional.
>>
>> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in
>> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it.
>
> Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I
> suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so
> you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I
> wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or
> if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD.
Not all phones use GPS, so that is not an alternative.
The only real alternative is to not carry a cellphone if you are that
paranoid or involved in questionable activities.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173765 is a reply to message #173760] |
Tue, 03 May 2011 22:15 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 5/3/2011 10:33 AM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:timstreater-732456(dot)17181402052011(at)news(dot)individual(dot)net,
> Tim Streater<timstreater(at)waitrose(dot)com> typed:
>> In article<ipml3r$7bg$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>> "Twayne"<nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
>>
>
> ...
>
>>
>> Why would PHP not be available on my own machine. I run
>> PHP scripts all the time.
>
> I can't really say since you gave no information at all. A lot of 'nix
> bundles might include it but Windows for instance does not. And unless you
> have installed a server installed locally on your machine, PHP scripts are
> not running on your machine. All you'll get when it runs is a page showing
> the PHP script, but no PHP results. Once you're into production mode, then
> the PHP is running on whatever server you are using for your production
> site/s.
> So you have actually not said anything but a few words with nothing to
> describe what you're doing. That of course if of absolutely no use to
> newbies and the inexperienced users looking to get into PHP programming.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
PHP scripts run fine on Windows without a web server.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173789 is a reply to message #173765] |
Wed, 04 May 2011 23:46 |
Twayne
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In news:ippupp$6e1$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
> On 5/3/2011 10:33 AM, Twayne wrote:
>> In
>> news:timstreater-732456(dot)17181402052011(at)news(dot)individual(dot)net,
>> Tim Streater<timstreater(at)waitrose(dot)com> typed:
>>> In article<ipml3r$7bg$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>>> "Twayne"<nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> Why would PHP not be available on my own machine. I run
>>> PHP scripts all the time.
>>
>> I can't really say since you gave no information at all.
>> A lot of 'nix bundles might include it but Windows for
>> instance does not. And unless you have installed a
>> server installed locally on your machine, PHP scripts
>> are not running on your machine. All you'll get when it
>> runs is a page showing the PHP script, but no PHP
>> results. Once you're into production mode, then the PHP
>> is running on whatever server you are using for your
>> production site/s. So you have actually not said
>> anything but a few words with nothing to describe what
>> you're doing. That of course if of absolutely no use to
>> newbies and the inexperienced users looking to get into
>> PHP programming. HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`
>>
>>
>
> PHP scripts run fine on Windows without a web server.
More half-information and useless to boot.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173791 is a reply to message #173789] |
Thu, 05 May 2011 03:14 |
Jerry Stuckle
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Registered: September 2010
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On 5/4/2011 7:46 PM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:ippupp$6e1$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>> On 5/3/2011 10:33 AM, Twayne wrote:
>>> In
>>> news:timstreater-732456(dot)17181402052011(at)news(dot)individual(dot)net,
>>> Tim Streater<timstreater(at)waitrose(dot)com> typed:
>>>> In article<ipml3r$7bg$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>>>> "Twayne"<nobody(at)devnull(dot)spamcop(dot)net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would PHP not be available on my own machine. I run
>>>> PHP scripts all the time.
>>>
>>> I can't really say since you gave no information at all.
>>> A lot of 'nix bundles might include it but Windows for
>>> instance does not. And unless you have installed a
>>> server installed locally on your machine, PHP scripts
>>> are not running on your machine. All you'll get when it
>>> runs is a page showing the PHP script, but no PHP
>>> results. Once you're into production mode, then the PHP
>>> is running on whatever server you are using for your
>>> production site/s. So you have actually not said
>>> anything but a few words with nothing to describe what
>>> you're doing. That of course if of absolutely no use to
>>> newbies and the inexperienced users looking to get into
>>> PHP programming. HTH,
>>>
>>> Twayne`
>>>
>>>
>>
>> PHP scripts run fine on Windows without a web server.
>
> More half-information and useless to boot.
>
>
Only for an idiot troll like you.
For intelligent people, PHP scripts run fine on Windows without a server.
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JDS Computer Training Corp.
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173799 is a reply to message #173789] |
Thu, 05 May 2011 15:23 |
Mr. B-o-B
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Twayne cried from the depths of the abyss...
>> PHP scripts run fine on Windows without a web server.
>
> More half-information and useless to boot.
As many other have already mentioned in this thread, you
can run PHP on any server w/o a web server installed.
http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.php
Wow, that's just great! You mean php can do more than just create
web pages?
I use php a lot at work on boxes that have no web server installed. It's a
great language for processing information to/from databases/other
applications I find (over other system languages). I have many cron jobs
(scheduled takes) that fire up php script to process all kinds of things that a human used to have to do manually.
Just because you don't like Jerry please try to pay attention. Any n00b
reading this thread would have already learned that PHP can run w/o a
web server (starting with Jerry's post & the others that followed with
more detail).
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| Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173811 is a reply to message #173789] |
Thu, 05 May 2011 20:44 |
Michael Fesser
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.oO(Twayne)
> In news:ippupp$6e1$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>
>> PHP scripts run fine on Windows without a web server.
>
> More half-information and useless to boot.
Even this is possible:
| PHP-GTK is a PHP extension that implements language bindings for GTK+.
| It provides an object-oriented interface to GTK+ classes and functions
| and greatly simplifies writing client side cross-platform GUI
| applications.
PHP is a multi-purpose language and can run in every environment, as
long as there's a compiler/interpreter available. It can run with or
without a webserver, directly in a shell, as a GUI application, even
client-side in a browser if you want (yes, such plugins exist).
Micha
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