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Thu, 12 May 2011 04:35

jimp
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Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2011 16:53:54 -0000, in comp.lang.php
> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
> <2irq98-6k2(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> | Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>> | > On Wed, 11 May 2011 04:00:09 -0000, in comp.lang.php
>> | > jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
>> | > <97ep98-c2m(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:
>> | >
>> | >>| Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>> | >>| > On Tue, 10 May 2011 09:57:16 -0700, in comp.lang.php richard
>> | >>| > <member(at)newsguy(dot)com>
>> | >>| > <5jmrvpnl392w$(dot)dlg(at)evanplatt(dot)sux> wrote:
>> | >>| >
>> | >>| >>| Just curious to know if PHP, or other script language, has a method of
>> | >>| >>| detecting mouse movement.
>> | >>| >>| I had left a website page open all night and in the morning found I had
>> | >>| >>| been transferred to another page that said my mouse had been idle for 10
>> | >>| >>| minutes.
>> | >>| >>| I have a hunch that it was probably due more to nothing happening on the
>> | >>| >>| page for a couple of hours.
>> | >>| >
>> | >>| >
>> | >>| > It could be javascript and timers or the page header has a refresh
>> | >>| > setting <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="600">
>> | >>|
>> | >>| Can't be done with just an HTML refresh.
>> | >
>> | > True. You would need to define which page to direct to:
>> | > <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="2;url=refresh1.htm">
>> | >
>> | > Works with FF4 (although FF complains), IE9, Opera, Safari.
>> | >
>> | > This is an old technique for page refreshes before the days of AJAX.
>> |
>> | I'm not sure what your point is.
>> |
>> | Of course you can make a page refresh itself with HTML.
>> |
>> | But what you can not do with HTML is tell if the mouse has moved or not.
>> |
>> | Only client side scripting can do that.
>
> It is not whether the mouse has moved but whether or not the page has
> been sitting idle for too long.
> For example, you may have a form and a session cookie that times out
> in 20 minutes. If you haven't successfully submitted the form within
> the allotted time then the cookie expires and you will need to log in
> again.
>
> Re-reading the OP I think that the statement was a red-herring, maybe
> an over simplification of the session timeout. This can easily be
> proven by disabling Javascript then waiting 10 minutes - then see what
> happens. If nothing happens than it is probably Javascript looking at
> mouse movement. If the page does redirect then it is probably the meta
> refresh in action.

If you read all the posts, you will see that he posted a link to the site
in question.

I accessed the site with Firebug turned on and watched all the javascript
download and the timers reset as I moved the mouse.

So, for the site in question:

Yes, it uses javascript.

Yes, it uses javascript timers to see if there is any mouse movement.

And no, you can not do that with just HTML.

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		mouse movement detection? By: richard on Tue, 10 May 2011 16:57
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Gregor Kofler on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:11
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: richard on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:23
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: P E Schoen on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:42
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		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Tue, 10 May 2011 21:15
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		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 May 2011 00:03
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		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Robert Heller on Wed, 11 May 2011 01:24
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Erwin Moller on Wed, 11 May 2011 06:16
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 09:02
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Wed, 11 May 2011 03:18
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 11 May 2011 04:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 09:11
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 11 May 2011 16:57
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 20:42
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Wed, 11 May 2011 13:34
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 11 May 2011 16:53
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 02:26
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Thu, 12 May 2011 04:35
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 06:09
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 12 May 2011 10:52
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 20:48
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Thu, 12 May 2011 16:12
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 21:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Thu, 12 May 2011 22:05
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Fri, 13 May 2011 00:14
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Fri, 13 May 2011 00:56
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Fri, 13 May 2011 10:34
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Fri, 13 May 2011 15:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Sat, 14 May 2011 00:01
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		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Sat, 14 May 2011 05:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sun, 15 May 2011 11:35
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Sun, 15 May 2011 16:41
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 15 May 2011 17:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Twayne on Tue, 17 May 2011 15:37
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 17 May 2011 16:34
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sun, 15 May 2011 22:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Mon, 16 May 2011 02:07
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Tue, 17 May 2011 20:33
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Tue, 17 May 2011 20:52
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: P E Schoen on Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 18 May 2011 15:20
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: dougatmilmacdotcom on Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Sherm Pendley on Wed, 11 May 2011 15:33

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