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Nslookup [message #173975] Mon, 16 May 2011 12:39 Go to next message
Joe Snodgrass is currently offline  Joe Snodgrass
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Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
Re: Nslookup [message #173976 is a reply to message #173975] Mon, 16 May 2011 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Joe Snodgrass" <joe(dot)snod(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:9973d98a-f6db-4908-8651-575affbfbdf4(at)q32g2000yqn(dot)googlegroups(dot)com...
>
> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.


Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
php, or java.
nslookup is deprecated. Use dig.
Lookup ns records to find DNS servers.
Re: Nslookup [message #173977 is a reply to message #173975] Mon, 16 May 2011 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Joe Snodgrass wrote:
> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server,

that's news to me..

Nslookup is a program that allows you to query many servers, yes. But
they never become 'your dns servsr'

To change that you need to reconfigure the resolver.


but how do
> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.

Look on ISP's web sites etc.
Follow the root servers down to something auhiritavve for some local domains

Look up a domain and see what its name server is.
Re: Nslookup [message #173978 is a reply to message #173976] Mon, 16 May 2011 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fred Zwarts wrote:
Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.

> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
> php, or java [sic].

Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?

I should think a real programmer would find the relationship obvious.

> nslookup is deprecated. Use dig.
> Lookup ns records to find DNS servers.

Maybe, and this is generally true at least in Java's case, because he's
dealing with an environment where networking is a vital part of the
programming requirements? Don't PHP and C++ programmers ever have to deal
with networking issues like that? Isn't getting your program actually to run
in the desired environment an essential part of the programmer's skill set?

You will note, I'm sure, that at least the Java newsgroup is geared to the
programmer, not just the language as such, and Java programmers being
generally a pragmatic bunch generally like their software to actually deploy
and do useful things. I find the question entirely on topic.

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Re: Nslookup [message #173983 is a reply to message #173978] Mon, 16 May 2011 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew <no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>
> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>
>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
>> php, or java [sic].
>
> Really?  You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
> programmer?  Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>

I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
my baker
drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
Re: Nslookup [message #173984 is a reply to message #173983] Tue, 17 May 2011 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 05/16/2011 07:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>
>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>
>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
>>> php, or java [sic].
>>
>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>
>
> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
> my baker
> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.

A poetic or self-evaluatedly clever riposte is fairly useless if it doesn't
somehow embody a relevant point. We aren't asking a baker about internal
combustion engines' function, we're asking a baker if they have
recommendations for a good oven.

If you fancy yourself a professional programmer, you had better have some
understanding of how to get your program to run in the real world. Nor clever
(as you think) retorts, nor labored and inapplicable analogies will save your
software. Knowing how to set a DNS server might. The question is entirely on
topic for clj.programmer. (Note the emphasis on programmer - it's for people
who want results, not fanboys for labored or spaghetti languages.)

Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how to
answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least among us
practical-minded folk.

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Re: Nslookup [message #173985 is a reply to message #173983] Tue, 17 May 2011 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>
>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>
>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
>>> php, or java [sic].
>>
>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>
>
> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
> my baker
> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>

I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter,
either - and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.

Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can ask
everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
each for their specific topic(s).

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Re: Nslookup [message #173986 is a reply to message #173985] Tue, 17 May 2011 04:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>
>>>> > Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>>> > you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
>>>> php, or java [sic].
>>>
>>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
>>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
>>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>
>>
>> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
>> my baker
>> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>
>
> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter, either -
> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>
> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can ask
> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups, each for
> their specific topic(s).

Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP guy?

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Re: Nslookup [message #173987 is a reply to message #173986] Tue, 17 May 2011 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>>
>>>> >> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>>> >> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> > Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> > with C++,
>>>> > php, or java [sic].
>>>>
>>>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
>>>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> vacuum where
>>>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
>>> my baker
>>> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>
>>
>> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter,
>> either -
>> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>
>> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can ask
>> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
>> each for
>> their specific topic(s).
>
> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP guy?
>

Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
monitor c.l.j very much.

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Re: Nslookup [message #173988 is a reply to message #173987] Tue, 17 May 2011 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP guy?

> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't monitor
> c.l.j very much.

Nobody misses you. Plonk.

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Re: Nslookup [message #173989 is a reply to message #173987] Tue, 17 May 2011 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> > Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>>> >>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> >> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> >> with C++,
>>>> >> php, or java [sic].
>>>> >
>>>> > Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
>>>> > programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> > vacuum where
>>>> > computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
>>>> my baker
>>>> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter,
>>> either -
>>> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can ask
>>> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
>>> each for
>>> their specific topic(s).
>>
>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP guy?
>>
>
> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
> monitor c.l.j very much.

Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.

Bill B
Re: Nslookup [message #173990 is a reply to message #173989] Tue, 17 May 2011 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 7:29 AM, Bill B wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>>> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> > On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but
>>>> >>>> how do
>>>> >>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> >>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> >>> with C++,
>>>> >>> php, or java [sic].
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues
>>>> >> as a
>>>> >> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> >> vacuum where
>>>> >> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
>>>> > my baker
>>>> > drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter,
>>>> either -
>>>> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can ask
>>>> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
>>>> each for
>>>> their specific topic(s).
>>>
>>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>> guy?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>> monitor c.l.j very much.
>
> Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.
>
> Bill B

Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.

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Re: Nslookup [message #173991 is a reply to message #173990] Tue, 17 May 2011 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 8:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 7:29 AM, Bill B wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>>>> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> > On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> >> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but
>>>> >>>>> how do
>>>> >>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> >>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> >>>> with C++,
>>>> >>>> php, or java [sic].
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues
>>>> >>> as a
>>>> >>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> >>> vacuum where
>>>> >>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
>>>> >> my baker
>>>> >> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter,
>>>> > either -
>>>> > and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>>> >
>>>> > Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can ask
>>>> > everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
>>>> > each for
>>>> > their specific topic(s).
>>>>
>>>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>>> guy?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>>> monitor c.l.j very much.
>>
>> Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.
>>
>> Bill B
>
> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.

A little self control, Mr. Stuckle, you fall into the same trap every
time. By now you should know that your words have no effect on me.
Bullying me is a waste of your time. I expect civil discourse from you,
Mr. Stuckle, and nothing you say will change that. Give it up, man.

Bill B
Re: Nslookup [message #173993 is a reply to message #173988] Tue, 17 May 2011 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lew wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Lew wrote:
>>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>> guy?
>
>> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>> monitor
>> c.l.j very much.
>
> Nobody misses you. Plonk.
>
Indeed. Jerry is a nothing guy really.
Re: Nslookup [message #173994 is a reply to message #173989] Tue, 17 May 2011 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill B wrote:

> Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.
>

No, the problem is, he can't.
Re: Nslookup [message #173996 is a reply to message #173991] Tue, 17 May 2011 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 8:30 AM, Bill B wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 8:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 7:29 AM, Bill B wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>>>> > On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> >>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but
>>>> >>>>>> how do
>>>> >>>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> >>>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> >>>>> with C++,
>>>> >>>>> php, or java [sic].
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues
>>>> >>>> as a
>>>> >>>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> >>>> vacuum where
>>>> >>>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
>>>> >>> my baker
>>>> >>> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's charter,
>>>> >> either -
>>>> >> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can
>>>> >> ask
>>>> >> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
>>>> >> each for
>>>> >> their specific topic(s).
>>>> >
>>>> > Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>>> > guy?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>>>> monitor c.l.j very much.
>>>
>>> Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.
>>>
>>> Bill B
>>
>> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
>> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.
>
> A little self control, Mr. Stuckle, you fall into the same trap every
> time. By now you should know that your words have no effect on me.
> Bullying me is a waste of your time. I expect civil discourse from you,
> Mr. Stuckle, and nothing you say will change that. Give it up, man.
>
> Bill B

Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.

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Re: Nslookup [message #173999 is a reply to message #173996] Tue, 17 May 2011 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 10:31 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 8:30 AM, Bill B wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 8:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2011 7:29 AM, Bill B wrote:
>>>> On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> > On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>>>> >> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >>> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> >>>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but
>>>> >>>>>>> how do
>>>> >>>>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> >>>>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> >>>>>> with C++,
>>>> >>>>>> php, or java [sic].
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues
>>>> >>>>> as a
>>>> >>>>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> >>>>> vacuum where
>>>> >>>>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I
>>>> >>>> knew
>>>> >>>> my baker
>>>> >>>> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's
>>>> >>> charter,
>>>> >>> either -
>>>> >>> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can
>>>> >>> ask
>>>> >>> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of newsgroups,
>>>> >>> each for
>>>> >>> their specific topic(s).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>>> >> guy?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>>>> > monitor c.l.j very much.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.
>>>>
>>>> Bill B
>>>
>>> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
>>> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.
>>
>> A little self control, Mr. Stuckle, you fall into the same trap every
>> time. By now you should know that your words have no effect on me.
>> Bullying me is a waste of your time. I expect civil discourse from you,
>> Mr. Stuckle, and nothing you say will change that. Give it up, man.
>>
>> Bill B
>
> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.

Mr. Stuckle, do you perhaps believe that people admire bullies, and that
people think well of you when you bully others?

Bill B
Re: Nslookup [message #174000 is a reply to message #173999] Tue, 17 May 2011 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill B wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 10:31 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

>> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
>> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.
>
> Mr. Stuckle, do you perhaps believe that people admire bullies, and that
> people think well of you when you bully others?
>
As long has is amour propre is satisfied, I don't think Jerry cares.
He can maintain the fiction to himself that he is relevant, knows
something, and is a person to be reckoned with.
Re: Nslookup [message #174002 is a reply to message #173999] Tue, 17 May 2011 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 11:10 AM, Bill B wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 10:31 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 8:30 AM, Bill B wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2011 8:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 5/17/2011 7:29 AM, Bill B wrote:
>>>> > On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >> On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>>>> >>> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> >>>>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but
>>>> >>>>>>>> how do
>>>> >>>>>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>>> >>>>>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation
>>>> >>>>>>> with C++,
>>>> >>>>>>> php, or java [sic].
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Really? You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues
>>>> >>>>>> as a
>>>> >>>>>> programmer? Does your favorite programming language exist in a
>>>> >>>>>> vacuum where
>>>> >>>>>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I
>>>> >>>>> knew
>>>> >>>>> my baker
>>>> >>>>> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I see your group has idiots who don't care about the group's
>>>> >>>> charter,
>>>> >>>> either -
>>>> >>>> and think everything should be on topic in every newsgroup.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Gee, I wonder why there isn't just one big newsgroup so anyone can
>>>> >>>> ask
>>>> >>>> everyone a question, instead of the tens of thousands of
>>>> >>>> newsgroups,
>>>> >>>> each for
>>>> >>>> their specific topic(s).
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>>> >>> guy?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>>>> >> monitor c.l.j very much.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mr. Stuckle, you can get your point across without being a bully.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bill B
>>>>
>>>> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
>>>> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.
>>>
>>> A little self control, Mr. Stuckle, you fall into the same trap every
>>> time. By now you should know that your words have no effect on me.
>>> Bullying me is a waste of your time. I expect civil discourse from you,
>>> Mr. Stuckle, and nothing you say will change that. Give it up, man.
>>>
>>> Bill B
>>
>> Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
>> sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.
>
> Mr. Stuckle, do you perhaps believe that people admire bullies, and that
> people think well of you when you bully others?
>
> Bill B

Bill, you can take your self-righteous attitude and stuff it where the
sun doesn't shine. That way it will be right next to your head.

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Re: Nslookup [message #174003 is a reply to message #173993] Tue, 17 May 2011 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 9:07 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Lew wrote:
>>>> Well, aren't you the soul of helpfulness? Are you a C++ guy or a PHP
>>>> guy?
>>
>>> Yes, and I'm also a Java guy. But because of idiots like you I don't
>>> monitor
>>> c.l.j very much.
>>
>> Nobody misses you. Plonk.
>>
> Indeed. Jerry is a nothing guy really.

Ah yes, the anonymous troll who won't use his right name because he's so
afraid someone will find out he's neither a programmer nor the engineer
he claims to be. Just an out-of-work ditch digger who got fired because
he didn't know which end of the shovel to use.

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Re: Nslookup [message #174005 is a reply to message #174002] Tue, 17 May 2011 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <iqu7t7$u4p$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:

> On 5/17/2011 11:10 AM, Bill B wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 10:31 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2011 8:30 AM, Bill B wrote:
>>>> On 5/17/2011 8:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> > On 5/17/2011 7:29 AM, Bill B wrote:
>>>> >> On 5/17/2011 7:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >>> On 5/17/2011 12:19 AM, Lew wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 05/16/2011 10:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >>>>> On 5/16/2011 7:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...

Ah, it's the can't snip won't snip fuckers again.

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Re: Nslookup [message #174010 is a reply to message #173984] Wed, 18 May 2011 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lew wrote:

> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
> among us practical-minded folk.
>

One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"

BugBear
Re: Nslookup [message #174013 is a reply to message #174010] Wed, 18 May 2011 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 05/18/2011 04:38 AM, bugbear wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>
>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>> among us practical-minded folk.
>>
>
> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"

I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers. I
believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being
insufficiently helpful. Shame on you if true, because that means you want to
enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help. That would be such a
character flaw and earn a person a degree of contempt.

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Re: Nslookup [message #174015 is a reply to message #174013] Wed, 18 May 2011 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 18 mai, 19:13, Lew <no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
> On 05/18/2011 04:38 AM, bugbear wrote:
>
>> Lew wrote:
>
>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>>> among us practical-minded folk.
>
>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"
>
> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.  I
> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being
> insufficiently helpful.  Shame on you if true, because that means you want to
> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.  

Argumentum ad misericordiam

The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still
alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on
topic.

If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.
You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is
invited to do.

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Re: Nslookup [message #174016 is a reply to message #174015] Wed, 18 May 2011 22:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael Doubez wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> bugbear wrote:
>>> Lew wrote:
>>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
>>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
>>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>>>> among us practical-minded folk.
>>
>>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"
>>
>> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers. I
>> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being
>> insufficiently helpful. Shame on you if true, because that means you want to
>> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.
>
> Argumentum ad misericordiam

Misidentification of fallacy. I'd already made the point that it's relevant
to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely clj.programmer. The
"programmer" part of that means that it's not about the language as such, but
the skills needed to use it effectively. I had argued that the question is
relevant there. The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being
drawn arbitrarily fine. Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from
the subject of the newsgroup, I only suggest that people not be such
namby-pamby nitpickers and be so doggedly exclusionary.

So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant.

> The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still
> alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on
> topic.

I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing against the
people who are NOT being "so helpful".

> If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
> because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.
> You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is
> invited to do.

And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for one
value of "here". You unsympathetic so-and-so. (Ad hominem - in case you want
to show off more Latin.)

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Re: Nslookup [message #174017 is a reply to message #174016] Thu, 19 May 2011 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 18/05/2011 6:26 PM, Lew wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

2> Michael Doubez wrote:
2>> Argumentum ad misericordiam

Argumentum ad listoffallaciesum.

2> Misidentification of fallacy.

Classic pontification.

2> I'd already made the point that it's
2> relevant to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely
2> clj.programmer.

Classic erroneous presupposition. Besides which, that still does not
essay its relevance to either of the other two newsgroups -- nor the
relevance of your own post to any of the three.

2> The "programmer" part of that means that it's not about
2> the language as such, but the skills needed to use it effectively.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. I think most of us here
expect traffic to be on the topic of Java, or at the very least the JVM.

2> I had argued that the question is relevant there.

What does your argument have to do with C++ or PHP, Lew?

2> The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being drawn
2> arbitrarily fine.

What does your appeal to sympathy have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lew?

2> Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from the subject
2> of the newsgroup,

Since the subject of the newsgroup is Java, your statement is erroneous.

2> I only suggest that people not be such namby-pamby nitpickers and be
2> so doggedly exclusionary.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

2> So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant.

How ironic.

2> I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing
2> against the people who are NOT being "so helpful".

How ironic.

2>> If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
2>> because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.

Classic slippery slope fallacy. You can add that to your collection of
fallacies, if it isn't already there.

2> And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for
2> one value of "here".

By one person, Lew. And he's crossposting to two other groups, Lew.

2> You unsympathetic so-and-so.

Who is "You unsympathetic so-and-so", Lew? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

2> (Ad hominem - in case you want to show off more Latin.)

What does your Latin have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lew?
Re: Nslookup [message #174018 is a reply to message #174017] Thu, 19 May 2011 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thingamabob wrote:

> On 18/05/2011 6:26 PM, Lew wrote:
> 2> The "programmer" part of that means that it's not about
> 2> the language as such, but the skills needed to use it effectively.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. I think most of us here
> expect traffic to be on the topic of Java, or at the very least the JVM.

Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition yourself
there. For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
where "here" is. You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
is on-topic. (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)

Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or ignore it
and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the Newsgroups list
and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
stop doing that. All of you. TIA.


PointedEars
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Re: Nslookup [message #174019 is a reply to message #174013] Thu, 19 May 2011 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lew wrote:
> On 05/18/2011 04:38 AM, bugbear wrote:
>> Lew wrote:
>>
>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>>> among us practical-minded folk.
>>>
>>
>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following
>> your "logic"
>
> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.
> I believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're
> being insufficiently helpful. Shame on you if true, because that means
> you want to enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.

The notion that having a hierachy as opposed to a dustbin
on USENET is petty and arbitrary is merely your assertion, and one
with which I wholeheartedly disgaree.

BugBear
Re: Nslookup [message #174020 is a reply to message #174017] Thu, 19 May 2011 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thingamabob wrote:
> On 18/05/2011 6:26 PM, Lew wrote:
>
> What does your Latin have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lew?

Sophistry? Oh. Thats Greek innit?
Re: Nslookup [message #174021 is a reply to message #174019] Thu, 19 May 2011 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bugbear wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> On 05/18/2011 04:38 AM, bugbear wrote:
>>> Lew wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your
>>>> question
>>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know
>>>> how
>>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>>>> among us practical-minded folk.
>>>>
>>>
>>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following
>>> your "logic"
>>
>> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.
>> I believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're
>> being insufficiently helpful. Shame on you if true, because that means
>> you want to enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.
>
> The notion that having a hierachy as opposed to a dustbin
> on USENET is petty and arbitrary is merely your assertion, and one
> with which I wholeheartedly disgaree.
>
> BugBear
One is reminded of an Englishman's response to the restoration of the
Crown..'Any Rule is better than no Rule at all.
Re: Nslookup [message #174023 is a reply to message #174018] Thu, 19 May 2011 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
yourself
1> there.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?

1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
1> where "here" is.

The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
reading comprehension problems, Lahn?

1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
1> is on-topic.

Classic pontification.

1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)

What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?

> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or ignore it
> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the Newsgroups list
> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.

What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?

> PointedEars

What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
Re: Nslookup [message #174024 is a reply to message #174023] Thu, 19 May 2011 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <ir3h51$qgo$1(at)speranza(dot)aioe(dot)org>, thingamabob <thingamabob117(at)gmai1(dot)c0m> wrote:
> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>
> 1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
> yourself
> 1> there.
>
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
[snippo]

Please don't feed the trolls.
Re: Nslookup [message #174025 is a reply to message #174024] Thu, 19 May 2011 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 19/05/2011 1:15 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

1> [snippo]

What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Miller?

1> Please don't feed the trolls.

What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding Lahn have to do with C++,
PHP, or Java, Miller?
Re: Nslookup [message #174026 is a reply to message #174023] Thu, 19 May 2011 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/19/2011 12:40 PM, thingamabob wrote:
> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>
> 1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
> yourself
> 1> there.
>
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>
> 1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
> 1> where "here" is.
>
> The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
> topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
> reading comprehension problems, Lahn?
>
> 1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
> 1> is on-topic.
>
> Classic pontification.
>
> 1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)
>
> What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>
>> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or
>> ignore it
>> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the
>> Newsgroups list
>> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
>> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.
>
> What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>
>> PointedEars
>
> What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?

Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups.
He never does have anything of substance to add. If he didn't troll he
wouldn't be able to post.

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Re: Nslookup [message #174027 is a reply to message #174026] Thu, 19 May 2011 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 19/05/2011 1:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

1> Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups.

What does Lahn's trolling have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Stuckle?

1> He never does have anything of substance to add.

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with C++, PHP, or Java,
Stuckle?

1> If he didn't troll he wouldn't be able to post.

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with C++, PHP, or Java,
Stuckle?
Re: Nslookup [message #174028 is a reply to message #174026] Thu, 19 May 2011 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <ir3kvt$q5m$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
> On 5/19/2011 12:40 PM, thingamabob wrote:
>> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>
>> 1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
>> yourself
>> 1> there.
>>
>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>>
>> 1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
>> 1> where "here" is.
>>
>> The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
>> topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
>> reading comprehension problems, Lahn?
>>
>> 1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
>> 1> is on-topic.
>>
>> Classic pontification.
>>
>> 1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)
>>
>> What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>
>>> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or
>>> ignore it
>>> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the
>>> Newsgroups list
>>> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
>>> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.
>>
>> What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>
>>> PointedEars
>>
>> What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>
> Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups.
> He never does have anything of substance to add. If he didn't troll he
> wouldn't be able to post.
>
"thingamabob" is clearly a troll also -- please don't feed them.
Re: Nslookup [message #174029 is a reply to message #174028] Thu, 19 May 2011 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 19/05/2011 2:31 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

2> "thingamabob" is clearly a troll also

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with C++, PHP, or Java, Miller?

2> -- please don't feed them.

What does your request-and-classic-erroneous-presupposition combo have
to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Miller?
Re: Nslookup [message #174035 is a reply to message #174028] Fri, 20 May 2011 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/19/2011 2:31 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article<ir3kvt$q5m$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>, Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>> On 5/19/2011 12:40 PM, thingamabob wrote:
>>> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>>
>>> 1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
>>> yourself
>>> 1> there.
>>>
>>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>>> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>>>
>>> 1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
>>> 1> where "here" is.
>>>
>>> The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
>>> topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
>>> reading comprehension problems, Lahn?
>>>
>>> 1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
>>> 1> is on-topic.
>>>
>>> Classic pontification.
>>>
>>> 1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)
>>>
>>> What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>>
>>>> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or
>>>> ignore it
>>>> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the
>>>> Newsgroups list
>>>> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
>>>> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.
>>>
>>> What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>>
>>>> PointedEars
>>>
>>> What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>>
>> Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups.
>> He never does have anything of substance to add. If he didn't troll he
>> wouldn't be able to post.
>>
> "thingamabob" is clearly a troll also -- please don't feed them.

Yup, obviously, Doug. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of trying to
treat him like a human.


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Re: Nslookup [message #174041 is a reply to message #174035] Fri, 20 May 2011 04:07 Go to previous message
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On 19/05/2011 9:43 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

2>> "thingamabob" is clearly a troll also -- please don't feed them.
2>
2> Yup, obviously, Doug.

In what way can Miller's classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim
*possibly* be classified as "obvious"?!

2> Unfortunately, I made the mistake of trying to treat him like a
2> human.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with C++,
PHP, or Java, Stuckle?
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