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Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? [message #174986 is a reply to message #174985]

Fri, 29 July 2011 12:03

Jerry Stuckle
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On 7/29/2011 2:33 AM, Simon wrote:
> On 2011/07/28 02:39 PM, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:51:00 +0200, Simon wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to display my front page diferently for mobile users, (as
>>> well as a few other pages).
>>>
>>> I see on the web that there are various scripts to detect mobile apps,
>>> (from the user agent).
>>>
>>> But from experience those quickly get out of date or are simply buggy
>>> and return some false positive.
>>>
>>> So my questions are simple, (I think).
>>>
>>> Is there a sure fire way to dynamically detect mobile apps?
>>
>> No. The user-agent value is what you've got to work with. Mostly, Real
>> Developers handle this by spending no small amount of time reading
>> documentation, experimenting, and testing with new devices and new OS
>> releases for those devices. People without a development budget adequate
>> for this kind of testing have to get by via reading the same doco, and
>> following discussions between those people that do that kind of testing
>> comparing notes. And, if one doesn't feel like sitting on one's hands
>> during those discussions, fixing the bugs in the detection routines
>> using the information others collect is a perfectly valid contribution.
>>
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> Truth be told, my 2 main concerns are
> 1) false positves.
> For example, Mobile_Detect
> (http://code.google.com/p/php-mobile-detect/), a very brief look at the
> bug list shows a fair amount of false positves.
>
> 2) The time spent at every page load to look if this is a mobile or not.
>
> In the end, I might settle for $_SERVER['HTTP_X_WAP_PROFILE'] and/or
> $_SERVER['HTTP_ACCEPT'] (wap)
>
> Thanks all
>
> Simon
>

You can only go so far with the false positives. Unfortunately, it's
not an exact science.

As for every page - you're prematurely optimizing. The amount of time
spent looking should not be significant, and is pretty much required for
all pages (unless you want to lose customers by forcing them to jump
through hoops).

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		The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Simon on Thu, 28 July 2011 07:51
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Peter H. Coffin on Thu, 28 July 2011 12:39
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Michael Fesser on Thu, 28 July 2011 13:23
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Peter H. Coffin on Thu, 28 July 2011 15:21
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: legalize+jeeves on Thu, 28 July 2011 21:31
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 28 July 2011 23:53
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Simon on Fri, 29 July 2011 06:33
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 29 July 2011 12:03
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Peter H. Coffin on Fri, 29 July 2011 13:46
		Re: The prefered way to handle mobile apps? By: Norman Peelman on Thu, 28 July 2011 22:37

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