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Sat, 22 October 2011 13:40

Thomas Mlynarczyk
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Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
[$foo = $foo++;]
>> Is that mentioned somewhere in the manual?
> Yes, see how operator precedence works. It is well defined.

It is the internal order of execution that confuses me a bit. First, the
expression on the right is evaluated, yielding the "not-yet-incremented"
value. Then, two things must happen: Incrementing $foo and assigning
$foo the value from the first step. The result depends on the order of
these two steps. Clearly, the increment should happen before the next
read access to $foo. But whether or not it happens before the next write
access (assigning $foo the value from the first step) is neither
intuitively clear (and optimizers might handle this one way or the
other) nor explicitly stated in
<http://de3.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.increment.php>. There
is only a user comment saying: "The exact moment when post-increment and
post-decrement happen is _just immediately after the variable is
evaluated_ (not "after the line is processed" or something like that)".
If this is meant to be documented behaviour, they should mention it as
such in the manual.

Greetings,
Thomas

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