| PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176247] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 12:53  |
Jeff Gaines
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I have been using NuSphere's PHPEdit and JetBrains' PHPStorm for php
development (hobby only, not commercial). I have also tried NetBeans
although that seems more oriented to Java.
I use Windows 7 and wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's to
try before I reach for my credit card. At the moment I prefer PHPStorm
because I have been able to get it working with my WAMP setup and it does
Java as well. I do want something that lets me step through code as I am
new to php.
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Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176250 is a reply to message #176247] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 14:53  |
Derek Turner
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:53:04 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's
> to try before I reach for my credit card.
Aptana Studio: no need for credit card as it's free :)
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your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse."
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176251 is a reply to message #176247] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 19:02 |
Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Jeff Gaines wrote:
> I have been using NuSphere's PHPEdit and JetBrains' PHPStorm for php
> development (hobby only, not commercial). I have also tried NetBeans
> although that seems more oriented to Java.
>
> I use Windows 7 and wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's to
> try before I reach for my credit card. At the moment I prefer PHPStorm
> because I have been able to get it working with my WAMP setup and it does
> Java as well. I do want something that lets me step through code as I am
> new to php.
Eclipse PHP Development Tools. By contrast to Aptana Studio, which is based
on Eclipse, that PHP editor actually does something useful beyond syntax-
highlighting. For example, it auto-completes `array' with a list of array
functions to select from, and its Outline view shows variable declarations,
not just includes. And you can set *PHP* breakpoints.
Eclipse was originally only a Java IDE, of course, so you can expect the
best support for developing with Java from its JDT plugin as well.
<http://eclipse.org/>
Aptana is good if you use its plugin to augment Eclipse, for example to
provide PyDev and its Local Filesystem item in the Eclipse Project Explorer.
PointedEars
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176254 is a reply to message #176251] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 15:52 |
Arno Welzel
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn, 2011-12-10 20:02:
> Jeff Gaines wrote:
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>> I have been using NuSphere's PHPEdit and JetBrains' PHPStorm for php
>> development (hobby only, not commercial). I have also tried NetBeans
>> although that seems more oriented to Java.
Netbeans *is* a Java IDE. But the PHP Plugin makes it quite useful for
PHP development too.
>> I use Windows 7 and wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's to
>> try before I reach for my credit card. At the moment I prefer PHPStorm
>> because I have been able to get it working with my WAMP setup and it does
>> Java as well. I do want something that lets me step through code as I am
>> new to php.
>
> Eclipse PHP Development Tools. By contrast to Aptana Studio, which is based
Or Netbeans with the PHP Plugin ;-)
> on Eclipse, that PHP editor actually does something useful beyond syntax-
> highlighting. For example, it auto-completes `array' with a list of array
> functions to select from, and its Outline view shows variable declarations,
> not just includes. And you can set *PHP* breakpoints.
The same is true for the Netbeans Editor. I think the IDEs generally
provide the same functionality. Even Android development can be done
with Netbeans as well as with Eclipse. So it's mostly a personal
preference, which IDE you prefer.
> Eclipse was originally only a Java IDE, of course, so you can expect the
> best support for developing with Java from its JDT plugin as well.
[...]
The same applies to Netbeans.
Debugging with Netbeans needs xdebug installed on the server side as a
PHP extension, but this should not a be a big problem (and a debug
extension is needed for Eclipse too).
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Arno Welzel
http://arnowelzel.de
http://de-rec-fahrrad.de
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176255 is a reply to message #176247] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 16:23 |
Hans Olo
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On 12/10/2011 6:53 AM, Jeff Gaines cried from the depths of the abyss:
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> I have been using NuSphere's PHPEdit and JetBrains' PHPStorm for php
> development (hobby only, not commercial). I have also tried NetBeans
> although that seems more oriented to Java.
>
> I use Windows 7 and wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's
> to try before I reach for my credit card. At the moment I prefer
> PHPStorm because I have been able to get it working with my WAMP setup
> and it does Java as well. I do want something that lets me step through
> code as I am new to php.
>
Stick with NuSphere PHPED. It's worth the minimal investment.
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176256 is a reply to message #176247] |
Mon, 12 December 2011 10:52 |
alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX
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El 10/12/2011 13:53, Jeff Gaines escribió/wrote:
> I have been using NuSphere's PHPEdit and JetBrains' PHPStorm for php
> development (hobby only, not commercial). I have also tried NetBeans
> although that seems more oriented to Java.
>
> I use Windows 7 and wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's
> to try before I reach for my credit card. At the moment I prefer
> PHPStorm because I have been able to get it working with my WAMP setup
> and it does Java as well. I do want something that lets me step through
> code as I am new to php.
Some other alternatives to try out:
- Komodo IDE: superb editor component, supports like a hundred
programming languages, great extensibility, rusty interface, pricey.
- WaterProof PHPEdit: it's written in .NET and uses ribbon interface. I
particularly hate ribbon interface but at least they've tried to do
something difference.
- Rapid PHP: very lightweight and fast, acceptable feature set, not very
smart editor, cheap.
- phpDesigner: lightweight, cheap, my co-workers love it for some reason
I can't understand.
BTW, NetBeans for PHP is way better that it seems at first sight.
NetBeans only sucks at non-PHP stuff, like most Java editors. For
instance, it cannot open a ISO-8859-1 file in a UTF-8 project.
IMHO, the perfect IDE for PHP does not exist yet. Old text editors got
stuck in year 2004 and string matching based code completion. Modern
IDEs tend to be slow bloated beasts with fancy code intelligence but
poor basic editing capabilities. At least, if you have a fast computer
and money to spend, your options are somehow better.
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176260 is a reply to message #176256] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 00:43 |
Ross McKay
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:52:29 +0100, "Álvaro G. Vicario" wrote:
> Some other alternatives to try out:
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> - Komodo IDE: superb editor component, supports like a hundred
> programming languages, great extensibility, rusty interface, pricey.
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> - WaterProof PHPEdit: it's written in .NET and uses ribbon interface. I
> particularly hate ribbon interface but at least they've tried to do
> something difference.
>
> - Rapid PHP: very lightweight and fast, acceptable feature set, not very
> smart editor, cheap.
>
> - phpDesigner: lightweight, cheap, my co-workers love it for some reason
> I can't understand.
> [...]
Add to that:
Geany -- http://www.geany.org/Main/About
It's fast, lightweight, good editor, doesn't have PHP debugging yet
though. A very nice tool for writing the sorts of code PHP developers
are hit with (PHP, JavaScript, XML, SQL, HTML...)
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Ross McKay, Toronto NSW Australia
"Click me, drag me, treat me like an object"
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| Re: PHP IDE Recommendations [message #176281 is a reply to message #176247] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 07:32 |
Goran
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On 10.12.2011 13:53, Jeff Gaines wrote:
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> I have been using NuSphere's PHPEdit and JetBrains' PHPStorm for php
> development (hobby only, not commercial). I have also tried NetBeans
> although that seems more oriented to Java.
>
> I use Windows 7 and wonder if people here can recommend any other IDE's
> to try before I reach for my credit card. At the moment I prefer
> PHPStorm because I have been able to get it working with my WAMP setup
> and it does Java as well. I do want something that lets me step through
> code as I am new to php.
>
What is wrong with NetBeans? Did you tried PHP or Java edition?
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