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Re: Lilupophilupop [message #176514 is a reply to message #176511]

Sun, 08 January 2012 21:59

Gregor Kofler
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Am 2012-01-08 21:49, Jerry Stuckle meinte:

>> I can't see any difference to 3GLs. Take the mentioned CF. It allows to
>> define the data type of supplied arguments for function calls. It allows
>> intrinsic escaping of query strings. Both features *can* (and should) be
>> used, but it's not obligatory (and they are not "enabled" by some
>> default setting). Not doing can and will lead to injections. It's more
>> or less the same thing as with PHP.
>>
>
> First of all, please study up on what a 3GL language is and what a 4GL
> language is (I won't get into it here - it's off topic in this newsgroup).

LOL. Yes, I can ready the Wikipedia article. From the list there, I know
and have worked with Clipper, ColdFusion and Mathematica. (And
ColdFusion in particular urges for a comparison to PHP.)

BTW: the *German* Wikipedia article states that
"The term 4GL cannot be exactly defined and is used mainly for marketing
purposes".

>>> And even with a CMS you have to write your own scripts.
>>
>> Pardon? You can, but you don't have to. No need to write scripts with
>> WordPress, Joomla!, Typo3, ...

> I've used WordPress, Joomla and Drupal. In every one of them I've ended
> up writing code for my client because the plugins don't do what he wants.

So? As I said: you can, but you don't have to. And even then, one (well,
perhaps not you) would use the CMS' own functions, classes and
framework. Besides, I'm pretty sure the *vast* majority of CMS based
websites out there don't sport any individual code snippets.

> Of course, if you just tell the client he can only do what the addons
> allow, that's one thing. I prefer to satisfy the client's needs.

You are every PHP developer's hero. I'd have never thought of that...

Gregor

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		Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sat, 07 January 2012 12:15
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 07 January 2012 13:15
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Thomas Mlynarczyk on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:27
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: J.O. Aho on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:52
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 07 January 2012 21:02
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Peter H. Coffin on Wed, 11 January 2012 00:31
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Wed, 11 January 2012 08:29
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 January 2012 13:42
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Erwin Moller on Wed, 11 January 2012 14:23
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sat, 07 January 2012 13:28
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sat, 07 January 2012 15:13
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:03
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sat, 07 January 2012 19:34
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sun, 08 January 2012 13:53
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 14:27
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 15:00
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 17:29
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 20:49
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 21:59
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 22:38

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