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an active web design group? [message #176688] Wed, 18 January 2012 02:18 Go to next message
Michael Joel is currently offline  Michael Joel
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What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing
haven't been used in years.

I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
friendly...


Thanks
Mike
Re: an active web design group? [message #176689 is a reply to message #176688] Wed, 18 January 2012 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Michael Joel wrote:

> What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing haven't
> been used in years.
>
> I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
> friendly...

You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web page
design.

BTW, are you really Charles Newman of New York City, who owns please.com
or do you work for him? If so, okay; if not, please don't abuse his
domain name. I suggest "no(at)example(dot)invalid" instead.

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Re: an active web design group? [message #176690 is a reply to message #176689] Wed, 18 January 2012 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/17/2012 9:42 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Michael Joel wrote:
>
>> What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing haven't
>> been used in years.
>>
>> I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
>> friendly...
>
> You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web page
> design.
>
> BTW, are you really Charles Newman of New York City, who owns please.com
> or do you work for him? If so, okay; if not, please don't abuse his
> domain name. I suggest "no(at)example(dot)invalid" instead.
>

Better yet - use example.com, example.org, etc. - which are specifically
reserved for such use.

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Re: an active web design group? [message #176691 is a reply to message #176690] Wed, 18 January 2012 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Michael Joel wrote:
>>
>>> What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing
>>> haven't been used in years.
>>>
>>> I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
>>> friendly...
>>
>> You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web page
>> design.
>>
>> BTW, are you really Charles Newman of New York City, who owns
>> please.com or do you work for him? If so, okay; if not, please don't
>> abuse his domain name. I suggest "no(at)example(dot)invalid" instead.
>
> Better yet - use example.com, example.org, etc. - which are specifically
> reserved for such use.

Better yet - use example.invalid - so no self-respecting email server
will even attempt to send out a mail as they would with the .com/net/org.
I thought you knew.

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Re: an active web design group? [message #176693 is a reply to message #176691] Wed, 18 January 2012 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/17/2012 11:23 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> Michael Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing
>>>> haven't been used in years.
>>>>
>>>> I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
>>>> friendly...
>>>
>>> You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web page
>>> design.
>>>
>>> BTW, are you really Charles Newman of New York City, who owns
>>> please.com or do you work for him? If so, okay; if not, please don't
>>> abuse his domain name. I suggest "no(at)example(dot)invalid" instead.
>>
>> Better yet - use example.com, example.org, etc. - which are specifically
>> reserved for such use.
>
> Better yet - use example.invalid - so no self-respecting email server
> will even attempt to send out a mail as they would with the .com/net/org.
> I thought you knew.
>

Not any more. With the new rules put in place by ICANN (last year?
year before? They go by so fast...), 'invalid' can be a valid TLD.

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Re: an active web design group? [message #176694 is a reply to message #176693] Wed, 18 January 2012 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> On 1/17/2012 11:23 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> Michael Joel wrote:
>>>> > What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing
>>>> > haven't been used in years.
>>>> >
>>>> > I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
>>>> > friendly...
>>>>
>>>> You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web
>>>> page design.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, are you really Charles Newman of New York City, who owns
>>>> please.com or do you work for him? If so, okay; if not, please don't
>>>> abuse his domain name. I suggest "no(at)example(dot)invalid" instead.
>>>
>>> Better yet - use example.com, example.org, etc. - which are
>>> specifically reserved for such use.
>>
>> Better yet - use example.invalid - so no self-respecting email server
>> will even attempt to send out a mail as they would with the
>> .com/net/org. I thought you knew.
>
> Not any more. With the new rules put in place by ICANN (last year? year
> before? They go by so fast...), 'invalid' can be a valid TLD.

Of course it is a valid TLD, for much longer than "last year." Reread
what I wrote: "no self-respecting email server will even attempt to send
out a mail" to an ".invalid" TLD as they will with the .com/net/org you
recommend. By using "example.invalid" you help to prevent the clogging of
the pipes by Usenet spam harvesters.

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Re: an active web design group? [message #176695 is a reply to message #176690] Wed, 18 January 2012 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonathan Stein is currently offline  Jonathan Stein
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Den 18-01-2012 04:46, Jerry Stuckle skrev:

> Better yet - use example.com, example.org, etc. - which are specifically
> reserved for such use.

".invalid" is also reserved, and if the poster didn't want to provide an
example of an email address, but actually wants an invalid address, it's
the right choice:

From http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 :
".invalid" is intended for use in online construction of domain names
that are sure to be invalid and which it is obvious at a glance are invalid.

Regards

Jonathan
Re: an active web design group? [message #176696 is a reply to message #176689] Wed, 18 January 2012 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erwin Moller is currently offline  Erwin Moller
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On 1/18/2012 3:42 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Michael Joel wrote:
>
>> What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing haven't
>> been used in years.
>>
>> I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
>> friendly...
>
> You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web page
> design.
>

Hi,

And in addition to Jerry's suggestion:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets

which is also an active group dealing in, you guessed, stylesheets.

Regards,
Erwin Moller


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Re: an active web design group? [message #176698 is a reply to message #176696] Wed, 18 January 2012 14:43 Go to previous message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Erwin Moller wrote:

> On 1/18/2012 3:42 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Michael Joel wrote:
>>
>>> What is an active general web design group? The ones I am seeing
>>> haven't been used in years.
>>>
>>> I was wanting to ask how to go about making a website cell phone
>>> friendly...
>>
>> You could try alt.html - a general group for all things about web page
>> design.
>
> And in addition to <strike>Jerry's</strike> Beauregard's suggestion:
> comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets
>
> which is also an active group dealing in, you guessed, stylesheets.

Sure. There's also comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html - but both of
those are treated by frequent users as "specific". Michael asked for a
"general" group, and I'm sure once he starts posting in alt.html, we
could clue him in on other resources. FAIK, there could be a group for
phone sites. <g>

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