| Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177753] |
Fri, 20 April 2012 08:32  |
Torsten Jrgensen
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Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
supported software
in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
yeah why not.
It is difficult to argue anyway exept that it is fickle, gross and not
conforming to
standards. It sure as hell does not have the professional looking sheen that
corporate software has.
Does it work. Yeah, it does - if you will agree with me on the function
given in the
programs. It is not Java, it is HTML and HTML-forms in combination with
PHP documents
that gives the programs their functionality.
I have a website, where some of the modules are on display, and others
are optioned
for download. It is freeware so you can freely download and examine any
piece of
code. You might ask, what is so funky about something being freeware
when you want
to make money on it. Well, you can ask for a charge if given
corporation is willing
and able to pay, and even set a standard fee. That is not against the
law. However
each pay in turn - everybody should e able to aquire a webtool.
That is what they are called: Sterling WebTools(tm). And if you sell
any one of them
you are entitled to 10% of the revenue. The price is 100.000 Dkr
Standard per Unit.
What Standard and Unit means will be explained on some later occation, not now.
I do not want beady little misers. There is enough angry webhackers out
there already
we do not need to add to the calamity. Business is AD in notion and in
manner, and a
positive outlook and perspective on the world is basic.
I have not sold a thing yet, not here in my hand though, and not money
in the account
yet. But the future is blue. You might say that I have pretty little to
show for if
I have not yet sold a single copy. Point is, if I had I would not be
needing you.
Also you should look at the programs and make up your own opinion.
Ok, so sales are 10%, but I want to hack what then...
Here is the deal:
Sales 10%
Merchantiles 5%
Devastation 2%
Insulence 1%
Data 0.5%
It 0.25%
Programming 40%
Sortie 50%
Danska 60%
Norm 70%
Djengis Khan 80%
Seller 90%
How this works out may not be immediately apparant, but they are exact
terms, so it
can be settled in a court. There is a way.
Sterling WebTools(tm) can be found at the following website: www.stweto.biz
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177797 is a reply to message #177759] |
Sat, 21 April 2012 13:11  |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-20 11:22:14 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
> On 4/20/2012 4:32 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
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> <Snip spam>
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> I don't deal with spammers, or anyone who talks about court action
> right off the bat.
>
> And just because they are "exact terms" doesn't mean they are legal!
>
> Take your snake oil somewhere else!
I do not intend to be a Snake, I do not think you will come very far in
business
with inequal intensions. What has to be the deal, is something that is to an
advantage of all of us.
What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of law, and
that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage to all
the parties
included.
There is no fake intended.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177799 is a reply to message #177797] |
Sat, 21 April 2012 14:22 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/21/2012 9:11 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-20 11:22:14 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
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>> On 4/20/2012 4:32 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>
>> <Snip spam>
>>
>> I don't deal with spammers, or anyone who talks about court action
>> right off the bat.
>>
>> And just because they are "exact terms" doesn't mean they are legal!
>>
>> Take your snake oil somewhere else!
>
> I do not intend to be a Snake, I do not think you will come very far in
> business
> with inequal intensions. What has to be the deal, is something that is
> to an
> advantage of all of us.
>
> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
> law, and
> that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage to all
> the parties
> included.
>
> There is no fake intended.
>
Take your snake oil somewhere else. Anything can be settled in a court
of law. The fact you even have to say that means you have snake oil.
And it's also SPAM, BTW.
BTW, I've had a very successful consulting business for 20+ years.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177800 is a reply to message #177797] |
Sat, 21 April 2012 14:42 |
Denis McMahon
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:22 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
> law, and that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage
> to all the parties included.
Sorry, but I see Jerry's point on this one.
You don't open a sales pitch by saying "so it can be settled in a court".
Such an opening implies one of the following:
a) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to
court.
b) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect me to take you to
court.
c) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect to take me to
court.
d) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect me to take you
to court.
Now given that I consider myself to be honest and have at the outset (1)
no intention of being dishonest with you and (2) no expectation of taking
you to court, then the only option that remains viable is (a) - you
intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to court - and thus
I now assume that your terms are a bunch of legalese designed solely to
screw over anyone who enters into any sort of deal with you. Having
reached that conclusion, my wish to enter into any sort of business
arrangement with you equates pretty much with my desire to jump naked and
bleeding into a tank full of hungry piranhas.
I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's the impression that your
sales pitch has given me.
Rgds
Denis McMahon
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177803 is a reply to message #177800] |
Sat, 21 April 2012 17:16 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-21 14:42:52 +0000, Denis McMahon said:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:22 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
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>> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
>> law, and that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage
>> to all the parties included.
>
> Sorry, but I see Jerry's point on this one.
>
> You don't open a sales pitch by saying "so it can be settled in a court".
>
> Such an opening implies one of the following:
>
> a) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to
> court.
> b) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect me to take you to
> court.
> c) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect to take me to
> court.
> d) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect me to take you
> to court.
>
> Now given that I consider myself to be honest and have at the outset (1)
> no intention of being dishonest with you and (2) no expectation of taking
> you to court, then the only option that remains viable is (a) - you
> intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to court - and thus
> I now assume that your terms are a bunch of legalese designed solely to
> screw over anyone who enters into any sort of deal with you. Having
> reached that conclusion, my wish to enter into any sort of business
> arrangement with you equates pretty much with my desire to jump naked and
> bleeding into a tank full of hungry piranhas.
>
> I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's the impression that your
> sales pitch has given me.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon
Does anyone understand what I am talking about.
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Torsten Jorgensen
Hedevangen 16, Rebild
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177807 is a reply to message #177800] |
Sat, 21 April 2012 17:43 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-21 14:42:52 +0000, Denis McMahon said:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:22 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
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>> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
>> law, and that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage
>> to all the parties included.
>
> Sorry, but I see Jerry's point on this one.
>
> You don't open a sales pitch by saying "so it can be settled in a court".
>
> Such an opening implies one of the following:
>
> a) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to
> court.
> b) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect me to take you to
> court.
> c) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect to take me to
> court.
> d) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect me to take you
> to court.
>
> Now given that I consider myself to be honest and have at the outset (1)
> no intention of being dishonest with you and (2) no expectation of taking
> you to court, then the only option that remains viable is (a) - you
> intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to court - and thus
> I now assume that your terms are a bunch of legalese designed solely to
> screw over anyone who enters into any sort of deal with you. Having
> reached that conclusion, my wish to enter into any sort of business
> arrangement with you equates pretty much with my desire to jump naked and
> bleeding into a tank full of hungry piranhas.
>
> I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's the impression that your
> sales pitch has given me.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon
Because I say that something can be settled in a court of law, I am a bad guy?
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Torsten Jorgensen
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info(at)stconinc(dot)com
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177813 is a reply to message #177812] |
Sun, 22 April 2012 08:53 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
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>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> [â¦]
>>>
>>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>
>> Libel.
>
> Sue me.
Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
that the tone
here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
time, or am
I just being hypersensitive.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177817 is a reply to message #177813] |
Sun, 22 April 2012 13:25 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>
>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> > […]
>>>>
>>>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>
>>> Libel.
>>
>> Sue me.
>
> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
> that the tone
> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
> time, or am
> I just being hypersensitive.
You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post
threatening possible court action, you get what you ask for.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177823 is a reply to message #177753] |
Sun, 22 April 2012 17:04 |
Luuk
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On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
> supported software
> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
> yeah why not.
You should try to make better software,
before trying to sell it...
>
> How this works out may not be immediately apparant, but they are exact
> terms, so it
> can be settled in a court. There is a way.
http://www.stweto.biz/demo/account/library/account.dat
If my business-data could be aquired that easily....
I would start a business right now... ;)
(or i would sue my software vendor)
>
> Sterling WebTools(tm) can be found at the following website: www.stweto.biz
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177832 is a reply to message #177817] |
Mon, 23 April 2012 09:04 |
M. Strobel
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Am 22.04.2012 15:25, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>
>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> > Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> >> […]
>>>> >
>>>> > You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>>
>>>> Libel.
>>>
>>> Sue me.
>>
>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>> that the tone
>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>> time, or am
>> I just being hypersensitive.
>
> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post threatening possible
> court action, you get what you ask for.
>
For me, people who start insulting others first, without reason, qualify for "asshole".
/Str.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177833 is a reply to message #177832] |
Mon, 23 April 2012 12:47 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/23/2012 5:04 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
> Am 22.04.2012 15:25, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>
>>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> >> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> >>> […]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>> >
>>>> > Libel.
>>>>
>>>> Sue me.
>>>
>>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>>> that the tone
>>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>>> time, or am
>>> I just being hypersensitive.
>>
>> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post threatening possible
>> court action, you get what you ask for.
>>
>
> For me, people who start insulting others first, without reason, qualify for "asshole".
>
> /Str.
>
Yes, I understand how a troll would feel that way.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177855 is a reply to message #177823] |
Mon, 23 April 2012 22:04 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>
>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>> yeah why not.
>
> You should try to make better software,
> before trying to sell it...
Take it easy. Harass.
>>
>> How this works out may not be immediately apparant, but they are exact
>> terms, so it
>> can be settled in a court. There is a way.
>
> http://www.stweto.biz/demo/account/library/account.dat
>
> If my business-data could be aquired that easily....
> I would start a business right now... ;)
> (or i would sue my software vendor)
>
>>
>> Sterling WebTools(tm) can be found at the following website: www.stweto.biz
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177856 is a reply to message #177817] |
Mon, 23 April 2012 22:06 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-22 13:25:11 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>
>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> > Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> >> […]
>>>> >
>>>> > You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>>
>>>> Libel.
>>>
>>> Sue me.
>>
>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>> that the tone
>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>> time, or am
>> I just being hypersensitive.
>
> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post
> threatening possible court action, you get what you ask for.
Now libel, court at action.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177857 is a reply to message #177856] |
Mon, 23 April 2012 22:43 |
Peter H. Coffin
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:06:43 +0200, Torsten J??rgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-22 13:25:11 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
>
>> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten J??rgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>
>>>> Torsten J????rgensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> >> Torsten J????rgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> >>> [???????]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>> >
>>>> > Libel.
>>>>
>>>> Sue me.
>>>
>>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>>> that the tone
>>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>>> time, or am
>>> I just being hypersensitive.
>>
>> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post
>> threatening possible court action, you get what you ask for.
>
> Now libel, court at action.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
means.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177859 is a reply to message #177855] |
Tue, 24 April 2012 08:24 |
Erwin Moller
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On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
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>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>> supported software
>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>
>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>> yeah why not.
>>
>> You should try to make better software,
>> before trying to sell it...
>
> Take it easy. Harass.
>
Dear Torsten,
If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how do
you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
Regards,
Erwin Moller
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177860 is a reply to message #177807] |
Tue, 24 April 2012 08:54 |
Denis McMahon
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:43:35 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> Because I say that something can be settled in a court of law, I am a
> bad guy?
You suggest it will need to be settled in court.
That means one of us must be a bad guy.
I don't think I'm a bad guy.
That makes you the bad guy.
Unless you're calling me a bad guy. If you're calling me a bad guy, I
have no interest at all in doing business with you!
Rgds
Denis McMahon
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177862 is a reply to message #177857] |
Tue, 24 April 2012 12:53 |
Scott Johnson
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On 4/23/2012 3:43 PM, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:06:43 +0200, Torsten J??rgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 13:25:11 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
>>
>>> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten J??rgensen wrote:
>>>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>>
>>>> > Torsten J????rgensen wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> >>> Torsten J????rgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> >>>> [???????]
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Libel.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sue me.
>>>>
>>>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>>>> that the tone
>>>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>>>> time, or am
>>>> I just being hypersensitive.
>>>
>>> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post
>>> threatening possible court action, you get what you ask for.
>>
>> Now libel, court at action.
>
> You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
> means.
>
Inigo Montoya? Is that you? :)
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177931 is a reply to message #177860] |
Fri, 27 April 2012 23:46 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-24 08:54:25 +0000, Denis McMahon said:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:43:35 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> Because I say that something can be settled in a court of law, I am a
>> bad guy?
>
> You suggest it will need to be settled in court.
No one is saying 'need'.
It is nice to know that differences can be settled, should any occur.
You are seeing demons everywhere and expecting everyone to be a bad guy.
Also a contract in business need to be legal, one way to mke sure that
it clears a court scrutiny is to make it strict, that way there is no
misunderstandings. You do not want to stand with differences and then
have an unclear definition in the contract.
I do not suggest anything.
> That means one of us must be a bad guy.
Inane.
>
> I don't think I'm a bad guy.
Moron
> That makes you the bad guy.
Accusal.
> Unless you're calling me a bad guy. If you're calling me a bad guy, I
> have no interest at all in doing business with you.
Harrass.
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon
What you are writing is inditement, take it easy.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177932 is a reply to message #177859] |
Fri, 27 April 2012 23:50 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>
>>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> supported software
>>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>
>>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>>> yeah why not.
>>>
>>> You should try to make better software,
>>> before trying to sell it...
>>
>> Take it easy. Harass.
>>
>
> Dear Torsten,
>
> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller
Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
and trying
to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and
send me a few
more emails. Take a piss...
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177933 is a reply to message #177753] |
Fri, 27 April 2012 23:54 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
> supported software
> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
been running
for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177934 is a reply to message #177932] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 01:58 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/27/2012 7:50 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
>
>> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>>
>>>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> > Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> > supported software
>>>> > in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> >
>>>> > I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>>> > yeah why not.
>>>>
>>>> You should try to make better software,
>>>> before trying to sell it...
>>>
>>> Take it easy. Harass.
>>>
>>
>> Dear Torsten,
>>
>> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
>> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Erwin Moller
>
> Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
> and trying
> to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and send
> me a few
> more emails. Take a piss...
>
You're the one who started with "it can be settled in court".
You won't get any support here, even from the morons. I suggest you
take a basic business course. Your very first message destroyed any
possibility of anyone respecting you in this newsgroup - and probably
most usenet groups.
Maybe you should try a lawyer's newsgroup. They'll be glad to sue
people for you - for a price, of course.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177935 is a reply to message #177933] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 02:03 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/27/2012 7:54 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>
> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
> been running
> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>
> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>
ROFLMAO! You mean about 2 Japanese Yen (if that much).
BTW - who designed your website? Your three-year old daughter? Even
the trolls here could do a better job.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177939 is a reply to message #177933] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 08:36 |
M. Strobel
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Am 28.04.2012 01:54, schrieb Torsten Jorgensen:
> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
I was wondering what this is about, so I had a look.
The web site behaves strangely, when I click on one menu button they all disappear,
except Home.
Then it does not make clear to me what you want.
Most important: it lacks any information about the responsible person. Missing
impressumer and företagsinformation can lead to court action. Seriously.
/Str.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177942 is a reply to message #177933] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 14:01 |
Graham Hobbs
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
<info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>
> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
> been running
> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>
> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
Torsten,
No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
arena. You wouldn't be considered.
Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
best?
Graham Hobbs
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177943 is a reply to message #177942] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 15:41 |
The Natural Philosoph
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Graham Hobbs wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>
>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>> supported software
>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>
>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>> been running
>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>
>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>
> Torsten,
>
> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>
> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>
> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>
I have no best way mate.
Its worth listening to WHY (if they actually explain) they think your
way is 'wrong' and if they have valid points, modifying it, but the fact
is you don't write a 1000 programmer corporate database the same way as
you write a device driver for a USB peripheral.
And people who have worked solely on the one will never have anything
relevant to say about the other.
Having worked more or less at both ends I don't involve myself in
religious narrow minded arguments except to point out that they are
ignorant narrow minded arguments.
If the other other guys apart from me have given you pause for thought,
and made things clearer, so much the better.
I am not always the best person to copy anyway: I code fast and in small
groups and the maintainer is mostly me. That may not be what you want or
need. If you are gearing code towards maintainability by lower than
average intelligence hackers like Jerry, you will need to spend far more
time commenting and writing documentation: The solution that achieves
its results in ten incomprehensible (to jerry) lines is simply no good.
You MUST use the approach that he was taught and will recognise even if
its hopelessly out of date, insecure and inefficient. IF he is the sort
of asshole that is all your company can afford to employ.
And since that is the only sort of company that ever HAS employed jerry,
you cab see that his recommendations TO that company are entirely correct.
"If you employ assholes like me you must write code FOR assholes like
me, and this is all I know".
> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
> best?
> Graham Hobbs
You cant unless you are intelligent enough to use critical thinking to
assess what people say and in the context of what you are trying to do.
Otherwise your name is jerry and you simply buy a text book that tells
you what is 'right' and slavishly do it that way. And hope your next
employer didn't buy a DIFFERENT text book.
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To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177944 is a reply to message #177943] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 18:17 |
M. Strobel
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Am 28.04.2012 17:41, schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> Graham Hobbs wrote:
>
>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>> best? Graham Hobbs
>
> You cant unless you are intelligent enough to use critical thinking to assess what
> people say and in the context of what you are trying to do.
>
+1
Usenet gives a very limited view. With some attention you can see a little of how
people behave. But you can't know if they are productive, unless you know some of
their record.
And then, productivity is not the sum of the source lines written, but the problems
solved.
/Str.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177945 is a reply to message #177942] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 18:33 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>
>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>> supported software
>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>
>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>
>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>> been running
>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>
>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>
> Torsten,
>
> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>
> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>
> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>
> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
> best?
> Graham Hobbs
Graham,
I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
world-recognized experts like Booch.
You can easily tell a crap programmer. They make statements like "It
works, so it's correct." Good programmers know there is much more than
just making something work under the current set of circumstances.
And BTW - Tony has shown NO competence other than maybe a casual
knowledge of PHP semantics. And he is unwilling to understand why
people like Booch advocate what they do.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177946 is a reply to message #177945] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 21:32 |
Tim Streater
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In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>
>>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> supported software
>>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>
>>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>
>>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>> been running
>>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>
>>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>
>> Torsten,
>>
>> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>
>> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>
>> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>
>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>> best?
>> Graham Hobbs
>
> Graham,
>
> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
> world-recognized experts like Booch.
Never heard of him.
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Tim
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177947 is a reply to message #177946] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 21:56 |
The Natural Philosoph
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Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>>
>>>> > Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> > supported software
>>>> > in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>>
>>>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>>> been running
>>>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>>
>>> Torsten,
>>>
>>> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>>
>>> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>>
>>> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>>> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>>
>>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>>> best?
>>> Graham Hobbs
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>
> Never heard of him.
>
well exactly. Its the first Bible Jerry read and he's been a True
Believer ever since.
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To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177948 is a reply to message #177946] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 23:36 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>>
>>>> > Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> > supported software
>>>> > in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>>
>>>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>>> been running
>>>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>>
>>> Torsten,
>>>
>>> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>>
>>> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>>
>>> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>>> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>>
>>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>>> best?
>>> Graham Hobbs
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>
> Never heard of him.
>
Check it out. Grady Booch. One of the world recognized experts in OO.
Of course, that also assumes you know something about OO. While there
are a bunch of others, Booch is probably the most famous.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177949 is a reply to message #177947] |
Sat, 28 April 2012 23:36 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/28/2012 5:56 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>>> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> >> supported software
>>>> >> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> >
>>>> > Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>> >
>>>> > That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>>> > been running
>>>> > for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>>>
>>>> Torsten,
>>>>
>>>> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>>>
>>>> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>>> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>>> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>>>
>>>> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>>>> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>>> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>>>
>>>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>>>> best?
>>>> Graham Hobbs
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>>
>> Never heard of him.
>>
> well exactly. Its the first Bible Jerry read and he's been a True
> Believer ever since.
>
>
No, it's a bit deeper than "Popeye" comics, so I wouldn't expect you to
have read him.
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177950 is a reply to message #177946] |
Sun, 29 April 2012 00:24 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>>
>>>> > Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> > supported software
>>>> > in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>>
>>>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>>> been running
>>>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>>
>>> Torsten,
>>>
>>> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>>
>>> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>>
>>> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>>> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>>
>>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>>> best?
>>> Graham Hobbs
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>
> Never heard of him.
>
Other widely recognized experts include Edward Yourdon, Bjarne
Stroustrup and Peter Coad.
There are a few others, but these are the ones who come to mind. They
have been recognized for years by as experts by other experts in the field.
But I'm not surprised that ditch diggers like TNP have never heard of
them.
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Sun, 29 April 2012 12:09 |
Tim Streater
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In article <jni1nt$fb8$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
> On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>>> <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> >> supported software
>>>> >> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> >
>>>> > Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>> >
>>>> > That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>>> > been running
>>>> > for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>>> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>>>
>>>> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>>> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>>> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>>>
>>>> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>>>> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>>> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>>>
>>>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>>>> best?
>>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>>
>> Never heard of him.
> Other widely recognized experts include Edward Yourdon, Bjarne
> Stroustrup and Peter Coad.
My formal computer science education, at Imperial College, dates from
1968.
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Tim
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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Sun, 29 April 2012 15:14 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/29/2012 8:09 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jni1nt$fb8$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> In article <jnhd56$2or$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>>> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>>> > <info(at)stconinc(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> >>> supported software
>>>> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case.
>> It has
>>>> >> been running
>>>> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>
>>>> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is
>> strange.
>>>> >
>>>> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>>> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>>> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>>> >
>>>> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony,
>> TNP,
>>>> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>>> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>>> >
>>>> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know
>> who's
>>>> > best?
>
>>>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>>>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>>>
>>> Never heard of him.
>
>> Other widely recognized experts include Edward Yourdon, Bjarne
>> Stroustrup and Peter Coad.
>
> My formal computer science education, at Imperial College, dates from 1968.
>
Long before OOP was even a concept!
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177953 is a reply to message #177934] |
Sun, 29 April 2012 15:53 |
Torsten Jrgensen
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On 2012-04-28 01:58:21 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
> On 4/27/2012 7:50 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
>>
>>> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>>>
>>>> > On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> >> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> >> supported software
>>>> >> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>>> >> yeah why not.
>>>> >
>>>> > You should try to make better software,
>>>> > before trying to sell it...
>>>>
>>>> Take it easy. Harass.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Torsten,
>>>
>>> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
>>> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Erwin Moller
>>
>> Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
>> and trying
>> to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and send
>> me a few
>> more emails. Take a piss...
>>
>
> You're the one who started with "it can be settled in court".
>
> You won't get any support here, even from the morons. I suggest you
> take a basic business course. Your very first message destroyed any
> possibility of anyone respecting you in this newsgroup - and probably
> most usenet groups.
>
> Maybe you should try a lawyer's newsgroup. They'll be glad to sue
> people for you - for a price, of course.
CAN be settled in court...Hello.
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Sterling Consulting Incorporated
Torsten Jorgensen
Hedevangen 16, Rebild
9520 Skorping
Denmark
info(at)stconinc(dot)com
www.stconinc.com
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| Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money [message #177954 is a reply to message #177953] |
Sun, 29 April 2012 17:15 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 4/29/2012 11:53 AM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-28 01:58:21 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
>
>> On 4/27/2012 7:50 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> > On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> >>> supported software
>>>> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why
>>>> >>> web,
>>>> >>> yeah why not.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You should try to make better software,
>>>> >> before trying to sell it...
>>>> >
>>>> > Take it easy. Harass.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Dear Torsten,
>>>>
>>>> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
>>>> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Erwin Moller
>>>
>>> Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
>>> and trying
>>> to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and send
>>> me a few
>>> more emails. Take a piss...
>>>
>>
>> You're the one who started with "it can be settled in court".
>>
>> You won't get any support here, even from the morons. I suggest you
>> take a basic business course. Your very first message destroyed any
>> possibility of anyone respecting you in this newsgroup - and probably
>> most usenet groups.
>>
>> Maybe you should try a lawyer's newsgroup. They'll be glad to sue
>> people for you - for a price, of course.
>
> CAN be settled in court...Hello.
Yup. ANYTHING can be settled in court. Only an idiot or a crook would
bring that up at the first contact.
Which are you?
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