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Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP [message #177977] Wed, 09 May 2012 13:17 Go to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 5/9/2012 3:56 AM, Erwin Moller wrote:
> On 5/9/2012 4:29 AM, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 May 2012 22:25:26 +0200, Michael Fesser wrote:
>>> .oO(Jerry Stuckle)
>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2012 11:37 PM, Daniel Pitts wrote:
>>>> > Exactly true, but if you scale to sizes you don't need, you indeed use
>>>> > more processor time! Our disk space is definitely not the bottleneck.
>>>>
>>>> And if you repeatedly rescale the same image to the same size, you're
>>>> using even more processor time!
>>>
>>> You missed the word 'caching'. You rescale when needed, and only once.
>>
>> How is this different than pre-scaling the images?
>>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> It is different because they are *only* rescaled when not found.
>
> One approach I used:
>
> 1) Need image xyz_2012_march_nr12_300x500.jpg
> (The 300x500 is dimensions needed.)
> 2) Check if it exists.
> If not: Create it out of original (xyz_2012_march_nr12.jpg in this case)
> and store it.
>
> One can easily wrap this functionality in a function.
>
> So the difference is that you don't need a batchjob that apparently
> needs months and that will resize many images that are never needed, or
> never needed on that size.
> (I have my doubts about the alleged months, but that doesn't matter.)
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller
>

And another waste of time. You should know what size(s) you need, and
be able to prescale your images. I don't think I've ever seen a site
which needs more than 3-4 sizes for an image, and most sites don't need
that.

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Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP [message #177978 is a reply to message #177977] Wed, 09 May 2012 14:23 Go to previous message
Erwin Moller is currently offline  Erwin Moller
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On 5/9/2012 3:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/9/2012 3:56 AM, Erwin Moller wrote:
>> On 5/9/2012 4:29 AM, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 May 2012 22:25:26 +0200, Michael Fesser wrote:
>>>> .oO(Jerry Stuckle)
>>>>
>>>> > On 5/7/2012 11:37 PM, Daniel Pitts wrote:
>>>> >> Exactly true, but if you scale to sizes you don't need, you indeed
>>>> >> use
>>>> >> more processor time! Our disk space is definitely not the bottleneck.
>>>> >
>>>> > And if you repeatedly rescale the same image to the same size, you're
>>>> > using even more processor time!
>>>>
>>>> You missed the word 'caching'. You rescale when needed, and only once.
>>>
>>> How is this different than pre-scaling the images?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> It is different because they are *only* rescaled when not found.
>>
>> One approach I used:
>>
>> 1) Need image xyz_2012_march_nr12_300x500.jpg
>> (The 300x500 is dimensions needed.)
>> 2) Check if it exists.
>> If not: Create it out of original (xyz_2012_march_nr12.jpg in this case)
>> and store it.
>>
>> One can easily wrap this functionality in a function.
>>
>> So the difference is that you don't need a batchjob that apparently
>> needs months and that will resize many images that are never needed, or
>> never needed on that size.
>> (I have my doubts about the alleged months, but that doesn't matter.)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Erwin Moller
>>
>
> And another waste of time. You should know what size(s) you need, and be
> able to prescale your images. I don't think I've ever seen a site which
> needs more than 3-4 sizes for an image, and most sites don't need that.
>

It is not that simple, Jerry.
When you have simple design-once website: yes, then I agree.

But when you deal with a team that uses lots of pictures, you don't want
to come back every time some design-guru decides to change the looks of
the website and needs different formats for the existing pictures. I
rather make a routine and be done with the problem.

Regards,
Erwin Moller


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