| Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object how can i see what object inclue [message #178949 is a reply to message #178945] |
Mon, 27 August 2012 04:47   |
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote on Mon 27 Aug 2012 02:52:33a
> On 8/26/2012 11:42 AM, Christoph Becker wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 8/26/2012 9:46 AM, Christoph Becker wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> > On 8/22/2012 6:36 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> >> Robert Heller wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 8/22/2012 1:18 AM, sismaster wrote:
>>>> >>>>> i want to know how can i see what object include in java script
>>>> >>>>> and is
>>>> >>>>> there any tool to see what object contains
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> > And how can PHP see what objects are included in Javascript?
>>>>
>>>> Actually it can't. But Thomas didn't say so (please note the carets,
>>>> which might not be aligned properly in the news reader, but are so in
>>>> the source code of the message).
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, but that was the original question, wasn't it?
>>
>> I'm not sure about that. In fact the OP didn't even mention PHP. Well,
>> he posted on c.l.php, but it might well have been the wrong newsgroup. I
>> *guess* the OP just wanted to know some way to inspect JS objects, what
>> was already answered by Robert. But I may be wrong with this guess, as
>> I'm no native English speaker (what's probably quite obvious).
>>
>
> He posted in a PHP newsgroup, so my answer was in relation to PHP. If
> he wanted something else, he should have been more clear (or posted in a
> more appropriate newsgroup).
>
>
>>> But Pointed Head did indicate I was wrong on two accounts. And you
>>> haven't said anything to prove otherwise.
>>
>> Actually I've just answered the questions *you* had asked (even if the
>> were rhetorical). I cannot prove neither of you right or wrong. The
>> statement "PHP runs on the server; Javascript runs on the client." is
>> not true in every case, even if it's typically true for PHP development.
>> And I won't argue, if the name "Javascript" is correct in this context,
>> or if one should use "ECMAScript" or point out that it's called
>> "JScript" on IE.
>>
>
> Nope. The question was real. How many browsers can run PHP code? And
> how many web servers actually run Javascript (I'm not counting wanna-be
> developers who are running 50 hit/mo. sites out of their basement, where
> 49 of those hits are from the site owner).
>
>>> IOW, he just opened his fat trap to hear himself talk, as usual.
>>
>> I can't acknowledge that statement. ISTM Thomas has quite some knowledge
>> about web development, and I have learned from him, as I have from you.
>>
>
> Not in this group he isn't. And not in several other groups, where he's
> also recognized as a troll.
>
>>> And, as usual, he's showing his ignorance (as are you).
>>
>> Would you have replied, if somebody had called you "Jerry Struggle",
>> "stoopid" and "O great one"?
>>
>
> I've been called worse. And by better people than you.
1. Your reply to the original post was essentially correct: IN PRACTICE,
PHP is processed off the server and Javascript is processed at the client.
This is what the OP should learn and know and understand.
2. The replies to your posted reply are the usual pedantic bullshit by the
c.l.j. troll Pointed Ears. Yeah, at RARE times he can be helpful while
getting it right, but there are plenty of others who get it right virtually
all the time without the snide, prima donna act [it may not be an act, but a
hopeless, untreatable (psycho)pathology]. Yes, I can name at least one who
gets it right without the arrogance and snide remarks.
3. The OP has probably been scared off by the fight usually provoked or
instigated by this asshole Pointed Ears, whose social awkwardness is well
known to regular lurkers and posters. That's a shame, since your reply to
him was entirely helpful compared to the angels-on-the-head-of-pin
discussion that followed.
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