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Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses [message #180891 is a reply to message #180888]

Mon, 25 March 2013 13:22

Jerry Stuckle
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On 3/25/2013 8:42 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <kipfqa$ib5$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> You can't track visitors by IP. A visitor's IP can change at any
>> time, and it is very possible to have multiple visitors from the same
>> IP address (i.e. even at my home we have 5 computers but only 1 IP
>> address). An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request
>> with all of it's images) but nothing more.
>
> 1) In both instances above you mean "e.g." and not "i.e."
>

Stuff it.

> 2) In the above, "its" does not need an apostrophe (are you a grocer?)
>

Stuff it.

> 3) A user's IP address is typically allocated when they reboot their
> ADSL router (e.g. mine has been up for 128 days), and will remain
> unchanged for that duration. Unless, that is, they asked their ISP for a
> static IP address in which case it won't change at all.
>

That is true in YOUR case. DHCP addresses may be valid for as little as
30 minutes to as long as one year. It all depends on who's assigning
the dynamic IP (it is NOT always the ISP!).

Additionally, that does not mean you will keep the same IP address. It
is not at all uncommon for a company to use multiple proxies, for
instance. In that case each request can come through a different proxy
- even requests for images on the page may come through a different
proxy than the original page request. AOL does this, as well as many
major companies.

> 4) So even with a dynamic IP address, to say that it's valid for one
> page request only is complete nonsense.
>

Your entire update is complete nonsense. You only make a fool of
yourself when you correct someone with incorrect information.

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		how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Nagaraju Kachapuram on Mon, 25 March 2013 08:44
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Olaf S. on Mon, 25 March 2013 11:11
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Salvatore on Mon, 25 March 2013 11:13
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Nagaraju Kachapuram on Mon, 25 March 2013 11:36
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 25 March 2013 12:28
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Tim Streater on Mon, 25 March 2013 12:42
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Scott Johnson on Mon, 25 March 2013 13:02
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Mon, 25 March 2013 13:09
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 25 March 2013 13:26
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Scott Johnson on Mon, 25 March 2013 16:55
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 01:44
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Tim Streater on Mon, 25 March 2013 13:34
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Mon, 25 March 2013 14:54
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 25 March 2013 17:24
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Scott Johnson on Mon, 25 March 2013 17:03
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 01:57
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 25 March 2013 17:25
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Mon, 25 March 2013 18:15
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 25 March 2013 13:22
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Richard Damon on Wed, 27 March 2013 05:29
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: richard on Mon, 25 March 2013 23:39
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Tue, 26 March 2013 00:21
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 26 March 2013 00:55
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Paul Herber on Tue, 26 March 2013 01:01
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 02:10
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 02:01
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Tue, 26 March 2013 03:10
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 15:18
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Evan Platt on Tue, 26 March 2013 05:39
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Evan Platt on Tue, 26 March 2013 01:31
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 26 March 2013 01:47
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Evan Platt on Tue, 26 March 2013 02:34
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 26 March 2013 03:27
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Tim Streater on Tue, 26 March 2013 09:10
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 26 March 2013 10:16
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Tue, 26 March 2013 10:42
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Tim Streater on Tue, 26 March 2013 11:47
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 26 March 2013 03:38
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Evan Platt on Tue, 26 March 2013 04:13
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 26 March 2013 10:16
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 15:10
		Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 26 March 2013 01:43

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