| Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses [message #180894 is a reply to message #180893] |
Mon, 25 March 2013 14:54   |
The Natural Philosoph
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On 25/03/13 13:34, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <kiphri$tch$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
> Scott Johnson <noonehome(at)chalupasworld(dot)com> wrote:
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>> On 3/25/2013 5:42 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> In article <kipfqa$ib5$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can't track visitors by IP. A visitor's IP can change at any
>>>> time, and it is very possible to have multiple visitors from the same
>>>> IP address (i.e. even at my home we have 5 computers but only 1 IP
>>>> address). An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request
>>>> with all of it's images) but nothing more.
>>>
>>> 1) In both instances above you mean "e.g." and not "i.e."
>>
>> Who Cares?
>>
>>>
>>> 2) In the above, "its" does not need an apostrophe (are you a grocer?)
>>
>> Who Cares?
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> Anyone with two brain cells to rub together, ISTM.
>
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>>> 3) A user's IP address is typically allocated when they reboot their
>>> ADSL router (e.g. mine has been up for 128 days), and will remain
>>> unchanged for that duration. Unless, that is, they asked their ISP
>> for a
>>> static IP address in which case it won't change at all.
>>
>> I do not use DSL so when does mine change?
>
> Who says that it does?
>
>>> 4) So even with a dynamic IP address, to say that it's valid for one
>>> page request only is complete nonsense.
>>
>> Can you quote where he said "it's valid for one page request only"?
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> Where he said:
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> "An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request with all of
> it's images) but nothing more."
>
in reality its valid for a whole series of page requests.If the browser
does persistent connections
"In HTTP 1.1, all connections are considered persistent unless declared
otherwise.[1] The HTTP persistent connections do not use separate
keepalive messages, they just allow multiple requests to use a single
connection. However, the default connection timeout of Apache 2.0
httpd[2] is as little as 15 seconds[3] and for Apache 2.2 only 5
seconds.[4] The advantage of a short timeout is the ability to deliver
multiple components of a web page quickly while not consuming resources
to run multiple server processes or threads for too long.[5]"
> Note that I've left his egregious hayseed grammatical errors in.
>
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