| Re: The Group Management [message #20470 is a reply to message #20456] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 15:08   |
Abraxa
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Registered: August 2004
Location: Germany
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You have mis understood how some things in the group manager work, which may explain why you are unable to accomplish your goals.
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Okay, I'll try to see understand things this time then. 
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1) The GLOBAL anon/registered groups DO NOT inherit permissions from anywhere normally and specify the default permissions for anon and registered users for a particular group (for registered users you can specify an alternate permission).
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Gotcha.
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2) By default when you create a forum, FUDforum automatically creates a group that manages permissions for that forum. However, that does not preclude you from creating your own group that would control permissions of any number of forums.
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Well yes, but that was one of my original problems: "FUDforum automatically creates a group that manages permissions for that forum" - but who do these permissions apply to? Only the people that are in the group defined for that forum, I suppose?
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3) The group that you create may have alternate default permissions for GLOBAL anon/registered users. Or it can be used to specify permissions just for the users who are members of that group.
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Okay.
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4) Inheritences are something A LOT of people misunderstand, so don't feel bad about it. Inheretences are ONLY and ONLY relavent for the permissions that specify what settings can the group manager alter for a particular group.
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Ok.
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5) Another source of confusion is the presense of 2 group managers. The user-land (as I like to call it) and and admin-land. The user-land (linked from forum's main page) allows the forum admin and group managers to change permissions of users inside groups or add additional users to those groups. The admin-lang group manager, which can be found in the admin control panel is used to create/modify/delete exiting group and assign group leaders as well as specify what permissions those group leaders may specify.
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Yeah, you are right - those two can cause a little confusion, but I understand what they're doing.
I appreciate your reply, however unfortunately you didn't address the core of my problem, though. My main problem is that apparently I need to create two groups to solve the problem mentioned in my first post:
1) members_A controlling forum A, giving read/post permissions
2) members_BCD controlling forums B/C/D, giving read/post/make thread permissions
However, as every member needs to be able to access all 4 forums A/B/C/D, I have to put every member into group members_A and members_BCD. For one group that's still manageable but I have 6+ groups, 11+ forums and all of the groups need to be members of 3 or more FUDforum groups in average so everyone gets access to all forums they need to have access to.
So all in all, I'll end up with 6*3 = 18 groups at least that all control different forums with different permissions and the current way FUDforum is set up I have no user friendly way of seeing which FUDforum group controls which resources and which permission each group sets.
With that, managing all forum groups is a lot harder since I need to go to the user-land's group manager and see which resources a particular group controls.
Also, users in the "Global Registered" FUDforum group need read/post permissions in forums A/B/E/H/K but only get thread creation permissions in forums B/E/H/K. Since there however is only one "Global Registered" group which from my understanding controls the permissions registered users get for ALL resources. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that one but it's giving me serious headaches.
Lots of questions, I know, but this is really a big problem for me.
-Soeren
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