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Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme [message #20829 is a reply to message #15408] Fri, 29 October 2004 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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D9rr: XHTML is indeed useful if you are writing a web page that uses other XML based markup. This forum, however, is straight HTML which requires no use of XML.

Personally, I would like to see the forum written to HTML 4.01 Strict. If it were written that way then changing to XHTML, if such a change were ever needed, would be trivial.

The following three articles explain very well why using CSS to represent a grid layout (read: using tables [minimally]) is a waste of time:

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/05/css-grids/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/06/to-be-tabled/

Basically, what you end up with is heavy markup that is structured like table markup but has to be styled to render like a table. And trust me, it is more trouble than it is worth to convert a grid layout page to all CSS. I worked for about two weeks to render http://thehub.clayton.edu/ without tables but ended up sticking with minimal tables because of compatibility (the page must work with IE). Note, though, that that page is tremendously better than the top level site, http://www.clayton.edu/ , which all "two clicks away from the front page" sites must be modeled after. I further cleaned it up on http://student.claytonstate.net/~csu10066/cims/index.html .

My point being, don't just say "I can't use tables they are bad" because a majority of people that are coming around to standards based design is proselytizing that you do so. Look at the situation and determine the best, most efficient, way to do the design while remaining compliant (hopefully strict compliant).
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