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Re: Can anyone recommend a good debugger & IDE for PHP? [message #170055 is a reply to message #170054] Thu, 07 October 2010 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Marious Barrier is currently offline  Marious Barrier
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On 10/07/2010 04:56 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 10/7/2010 2:35 PM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>> On 10/07/2010 02:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2010 11:58 AM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>>>> On 09/26/2010 09:46 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> > On 9/25/2010 5:06 PM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>>>> >> On 09/22/2010 06:09 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> >>> Looking for the equivalent of MS Visual Studio for PHP. Thanks.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> tail -f apache-error-log
>>>> >> and you will see everything you need to know to debug your scripts.
>>>> >
>>>> > Not likely.
>>>>
>>>> For a newbie, absolutely not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> First, it assumes the op is running Apache. Many are not.
>>>
>>> Second, it assumes PHP errors are being written to the Apache error log.
>>> A sysadmin who knows his stuff will not mix application and server
>>> errors in the same log.
>>>
>>> Third, it assumes the user has access to the apache error log. This is
>>> not true on the vast majority of hosts, for security reasons.
>>>
>>> Fourth, it assumes the PHP error messages will tell the user everything
>>> they need to know. This is not the case - as is evinced by a lot of
>>> messages in this newsgroup asking what a particular error message means.
>>>
>>> Only a newbie would make such a claim.
>>
>> In which moment did we talk about a free host trolly? Sorry if my
>> comment hurt you.
>
> No place. But it applies to virtually every shared host out there.

That is a different matter, I assume almost all here are professionals
working in their own servers.

Or at least developing in their own box?
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