| Re: Can anyone recommend a good debugger & IDE for PHP? [message #170057 is a reply to message #170056] |
Fri, 08 October 2010 07:49   |
Tim Streater
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In article <i8lmfm$bn7$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org>,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
> On 10/7/2010 5:15 PM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>> On 10/07/2010 04:56 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2010 2:35 PM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>>>> On 10/07/2010 02:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> > On 10/7/2010 11:58 AM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>>>> >> On 09/26/2010 09:46 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> >>> On 9/25/2010 5:06 PM, Marious Barrier wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 09/22/2010 06:09 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Looking for the equivalent of MS Visual Studio for PHP. Thanks.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> tail -f apache-error-log
>>>> >>>> and you will see everything you need to know to debug your scripts.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Not likely.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For a newbie, absolutely not.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > First, it assumes the op is running Apache. Many are not.
>>>> >
>>>> > Second, it assumes PHP errors are being written to the Apache error
>>>> > log.
>>>> > A sysadmin who knows his stuff will not mix application and server
>>>> > errors in the same log.
>>>> >
>>>> > Third, it assumes the user has access to the apache error log. This is
>>>> > not true on the vast majority of hosts, for security reasons.
>>>> >
>>>> > Fourth, it assumes the PHP error messages will tell the user everything
>>>> > they need to know. This is not the case - as is evinced by a lot of
>>>> > messages in this newsgroup asking what a particular error message
>>>> > means.
>>>> >
>>>> > Only a newbie would make such a claim.
>>>>
>>>> In which moment did we talk about a free host trolly? Sorry if my
>>>> comment hurt you.
>>>
>>> No place. But it applies to virtually every shared host out there.
>>
>> That is a different matter, I assume almost all here are professionals
>> working in their own servers.
>>
>> Or at least developing in their own box?
>
> Not necessarily on their own box, not necessarily on Apache and not
> necessarily on Linux.
>
> In fact, I would bet the vast majority of the group is NOT developing on
> Linux, for instance.
>
> But even if that is the case - if they are professionals, they will NOT
> have their PHP errors mixed in with the web server error log.
>
> But a real professional would understand that. A troll would not.
Mmmm, where would the errors be reported then?
I'm using JavasScript-ajax-apache-php all within one machine. For me,
it's quite handy that PHP notices from the backend scripts go into the
server log, rather than getting mixed in with the ajax responses. This
is OS X 10.6.4.
--
Tim
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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