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Re: Spam [message #170445 is a reply to message #170436] Mon, 01 November 2010 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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Twayne wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed:
[snippage to certain points]
>> I have never heard of an ISP (any ISP) filtering spam from Usenet.
>> Your ISP, whomever it is, is merely relaying a stream of data
>> between your chosen news server (in your case, eternal-september)
>> and your newsreader. They do not read or filter it.
>
> I'm not sure why you say that; they can apply the same
> black/blocklists they use for regular e-mail. And each node handling
> it is identified, even though it may well be a forgery and different
> inside the envelope than you're used to seeing.

You seem to be talking about something else. My Usenet usage is not
related to any ISP whatsoever.

> I daresay OE is =>any other client w/r to capabilities. I use OE
> because it's functional, stable, and shows no weaknesses.

Umm ... I guess I'm glad you like it!

>> Strange. I don't have a "spam" folder for Usenet... email,
>> sure, but not News.
>
> Use the e-mail spam folder. Drag & drop it, use a rule, whatever, to
> store it into the spam folder you have in e-mail. Or to a folder on
> your desktop if you like the desktop for that sort of thing, though
> I'd advise against it.

But ... I don't *have* an email spam folder in my _Newsreader_. There is
no email here. I'm quite happy with simply Mark As Read to the GG spam.
There is no need to shift those headers someplace else.

> You can move/copy/save it to wherever you want it to be. Before you go
> off half cocked and claim these things can't be done, I'd advise you
> to try them out. Everything I've mentioned not only can be done but I
> have done it.

Try it with a real newsreader that is not part of an email client. I've
no need to get so involved in what you suggested. One simple line in my
scorefile takes care of it all.

>> How do you block Usenet posts from those countries? Where am I
>> posting from?
>
> It's not worth my time to look up where you're posting from because I
> don't care to waste my time parsing to see where your ISP is and then
> following to a machine identifier. You do it; with a little effort,
> you can do it.

But ... my ISP (which happens to be a cable internet service) is not
involved with my Usenet usage at all, other than to transfer a stream of
bytes between me and my independent Usenet server. My ISP is not
providing me with Usenet servers. (Or email either, for that matter.)

I suppose you could find out who my ISP was if you took a court order
from a judge and knocked on the door of the Usenet server's
headquarters.

> HTH,

Not really... :-)
Might I be so brazen as to suggest you try a *newsreader*?

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