| Re: Need your website? [message #171499 is a reply to message #171463] |
Thu, 06 January 2011 19:52  |
Twayne
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In news:ig0gj9$81c$2(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
> On 1/4/2011 7:34 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Derek Turner wrote:
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>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> <spam not re-posted>.
>>>>
>>>> But then spammers never were very smart
>>>
>>> OTOH if you had not responded I would never have seen it.
>>
>> Ditto here. I don't know why Jerry continually posts
>> replies to and mostly quotes the spam. Maybe he thinks the
>> spammer will actually see his witty little comments? Yeah,
>> like that's going to happen...
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> Because it has been proven time and time again that
> ignoring SPAM just encourages more - while calling it for
> what it is has a tendency to discourage SPAM - at least for
> those who read before posting, anyway.
> You don't like it? No one is forcing you to read it.
It has NOT been proven time & again that ignoring spam (SPAM is a trademark)
encourages more: Just the opposite, in fact.
Spam responses are of the following categories fo 98% of spammers:
1. Not responded to - That spam run was a waste of time; no responses means
there were no suckers willing to look at the spam's scam/lies/whatever.
There is no indication that the e-mail address even exists, because spammers
do NOT want to see bounces. When they send out a million addresses hoping
for up to say ten responses, the spammers specifically do NOT want to see
all those bounces. As a general rule they unload them onto some innocent
bystander by using an address from their spam listing. They don't care where
it goes as long as it doesn't go back to them.
Is of no value as something to sell to other spammers.
2. E-mail responded to: This is known as "Address Confirmation" to the
spammers. It means those people are known to have been read by someone at
the e-mail address and the address is a good one (it actually exists and
someone read the spams). These have value as they can be sold as "verified
spam addresses" to other spammers.
3. Spam bounces: Spammers have no interest in boune messages; they only want
"live" e-mail addresses. When you figure they're hoping for a max of say ten
responses per million spams sent, you can see why they don't want the bounce
notifications.
4. Spam resulted in x number of sales. The most valuable of all e-mail
address lists (if another spammer happens to believe the original spammer,
that is). These will pull in the highest prices for spam lists being sold.
Spammers do not write the software they use to send spam to a spam list of
possibly several million people at a time. They buy their software from
actual spamware designers. These people can actually make a lot more money
than any of the other metods of actually doing the spamming (e-mailing).
There are many criminals in the spam world, some of them pretty dangerous.
The 419 Nigerian and similar scams are often controlled by such criminals as
a few people have found out the hard way. The FBI has listings of people
actually murdered because they tried to follow the money to get their
swindled money back.
I would seriously suggest that you do some research on the many subjects you
like to proclaim a proficiency in; this one in particular demonstrates your
ignorance on these matters. MAPS and the .gov sites are good places to look
that are going to be safe. fbi.gov is one such site, ftc.gov another; both
have a LOT of information about spam and the FTC as you should know already
even invites people to send their spam to them.
Please stop with the volumes of misinformation you try to provide and
verify your facts before making yourself look less and less credible with
every response you give. When you don't really know, simply do not respond
rather than make guesses. Everything you say on the groups should be capable
of being backed up with reliable data sources. Meanwhile, go on responding
to your spams and be happy. Try some research and then match it up to your
own experiences, especially if the glut of Chinese spam has reached you. If
not, it will. Oh, and most o'seas spams originate right here in the good old
US of A.
And lastly, if you wish to do something about spam, read up on how to be a
spamfighter and kill their accounts & hit 'em in the pocket books, the only
effective thing you can do to a spammer. Keep chasing them from location to
location until they can't afford or have no further sites that wil accept
their business.
HTH,
Twayne`
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