FUDforum
Fast Uncompromising Discussions. FUDforum will get your users talking.

Home » Imported messages » comp.lang.php » What *tasks* are hard for PHP?
Show: Today's Messages :: Polls :: Message Navigator
Return to the default flat view Create a new topic Submit Reply
Re: What *tasks* are hard for PHP? [message #172069 is a reply to message #172068] Sat, 29 January 2011 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Tim Streater is currently offline  Tim Streater
Messages: 328
Registered: September 2010
Karma:
Senior Member
In article <%MP0p.22457$3K(dot)9265(at)newsfe12(dot)iad>,
"P E Schoen" <paul(at)pstech-inc(dot)com> wrote:

> "Curtis Dyer" wrote in message

> So, I'm very new to server-side programming, and I've just found it
> difficult to learn. I suppose I'm just somewhat resisting the concept of
> context based typing and the myriad of alternate ways to do the same thing,
> especially using very cryptic symbols instead of the much more verbose but
> more intuitive and human-readable verbosity of Delphi Pascal. I actually
> prefer C to some extent, but I've come to accept Delphi as my language of
> choice, especially for Windows GUI.

If you prefer C I'm surprised you're having trouble with PHP, which I
found to be a simplification. Personally I find declaring variables to
be a bore and waste of time, along with worrying about their types.

Nothing nicer than being able to say:

$num = (something, e.g. number of result rows from database query)

$char = "s";
if ($num==1) $char = "";
if ($num==0) $num = "no";

echo "We got " . $num . " result" . $char . "\n");


thereby producing a nice human-friendly message with a small number of
statements. Try doing that in C.

I would avoid perl just for the reason you cite: far too cryptic, and
the people on the perl ng appear to focus solely on the notion of making
their programs *more* cryptic. By contrast the PHP docs site at:

<http://www.php.net/manual/en/>

is an excellent reference source. I've purchased no books on PHP and
only occasionally asked a question here.

I started programming in 1965. During the late 90s I did none at all,
but just 11 years ago, the bloke came up to me and told me I was now the
man for the company's assets database, just being created. He gave me a
quick 30 minute talk about PHP, mySQL, and JavaScript, none of which I'd
ever used, and it was only mySQL that I'd even heard of. But, that intro
was all I needed.

So why are you, with your experience, having trouble with server-side?

Hmmm, I might replace the three statements above with:

$char = $num==1 ? "" : "s";
$num = $num==0 ? "no" : $num;

Got to make the program shorter! :-)

--
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
[Message index]
 
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Previous Topic: Sanitising input
Next Topic: php include question
Goto Forum:
  

-=] Back to Top [=-
[ Syndicate this forum (XML) ] [ RSS ]

Current Time: Sun Nov 10 13:29:14 GMT 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.05254 seconds