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On 2/21/2011 7:11 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article<iju58o$9nq$1(at)news(dot)eternal-september(dot)org>, Bill B<me(at)privacy(dot)net> wrote:
>> On 2/21/2011 11:44 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
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>>> The nice thing about Usenet is that it's so easy to filter out or ignore
>>> things that bother you. Like your continual harping at Stuckle. Yes, he's a
>>> jerk. No, he's not going to stop being a jerk just because you ask him to, no
>>> matter how often you ask -- he's already made that quite clear. That's the
>>> nature of jerks. If you don't like reading his posts, then killfile him. Just
>>> like I'm going to killfile you, the next time you post one of these pointless
>>> requests. You've made your point: you think Stuckle's obnoxious. I trust I've
>>> made mine: you're getting that way.
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>> So noted. I have higher expectations of Mr. Stuckle.
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> Just out of curiosity -- on what do you base those higher expectations?
Short answer: I think he is able, and needs only find the will.
Longer, rambling answer:
My experience tells me that when people know what is expected there is a
higher probability that they will reach for it. I aim high and press
hard. I expect people to be at their best. There isn't any reason not to be.
My experience tells me that when people know where the boundaries are,
they tend to work within them (after testing them, of course). I
consider civil discourse a reasonable boundary. I expect everyone to
respect others, and expect to be respected. I expect to respect others,
and I expect to be respected.
While there isn't any reason not to be at your best, there are sometimes
obstacles. We all have "stuff" we carry around. I carry "stuff" around.
When people come up against their "stuff", the people who have concern
for them (I mean that in a general "agape" sort of way) let them know.
And give them encouragement.
You said Mr. Stuckle is a jerk. I disagree. He may occasionally act like
a jerk, but that is a long way from being one. I act like a jerk now and
then. That doesn't make me one as a matter of being.
I believe that Mr. Stuckle will see that he can accomplish what he wants
through civil discourse, which usually takes a giant step forward when
we don't take things personally. That's difficult, but can be
accomplished with a little heavy lifting.
I think he can do better (as can I and everyone else) and I think he
will. That is the basis for my higher expectations.
As to putting me in a killfile - they are handy little things, but
you/I/we should realize that putting someone in one has nothing to do
with that person - it's just you/me/us working out your/my/our "stuff."
Far better to remain engaged and make a difference, leave the world a
slightly better place than you found it.
I appreciate the question; thanks, Doug.
Bill B
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