| Re: browser url with #... [message #173419 is a reply to message #173234] |
Sat, 09 April 2011 07:39   |
Thomas 'PointedEars'
Messages: 701
Registered: October 2010
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Gregor Kofler wrote:
> Am 2011-03-28 23:00, Twayne meinte:
>> No - if the "#", or bookmark, or misnomered "fragment identifier" as you
The past (participle) form of the verb for using a misnomer is _misnamed_.
>> prefer, as far as I'm concerned, I like to use the clearest acceptable
>> language possible. You on the other hand appear as though rather than
>> adding information, you want to dismiss perfectly good information and
>> restate the very same thing in more technical language that a LOT few
>> people will understand.
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> The # *is* the fragment identifier.
Actually, the `#' is (so to speak) the left-hand side fragment (identifier
component) _delimiter_, followed by the fragment identifier (which may be
empty). See also [RFC3986]:
| 3. Syntax Components
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| The generic URI syntax consists of a hierarchical sequence of
| components referred to as the scheme, authority, path, query, and
| fragment.
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| URI = scheme ":" hier-part [ "?" query ] [ "#" fragment ]
| […]
| 3.5. Fragment
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| The fragment identifier component of a URI allows indirect
| identification of a secondary resource by reference to a primary
| resource and additional identifying information. The identified
| secondary resource may be some portion or subset of the primary
| resource, some view on representations of the primary resource, or
| some other resource defined or described by those representations. A
| fragment identifier component is indicated by the presence of a
| number sign ("#") character and terminated by the end of the URI.
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| fragment = *( pchar / "/" / "?" )
| […]
> It's no "bookmark" - no matter what some wacky WYSIWYG programs state. And
> in a newsgroup dealing with technical issues precise terms help to avoid
> "discussions" like this one.
Full ACK.
[The misconception, and the misnaming of the URI fragment
(component/identifier) as "bookmark" comes from the fact that fragments are
often used in one's bookmarks (which hold URIs), for example to keep a quick
reference to a specific message in a user-augmentable document resource:
<http://www.php.net/manual/en/introduction.php#76515>. But a bookmark can
also hold the URI <http://www.php.net/manual/en/introduction.php>, which
makes the aforementioned misconception and misnaming obvious.]
Regards,
PointedEars
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[RFC3986] T. Berners-Lee/R. Fielding/L. Masinter: RFC 3986/STD 66,
"Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax",
January 2005. <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986>, p. 16 and 24.
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var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_unction.js:16
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