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Re: php license [message #173794 is a reply to message #173790] Thu, 05 May 2011 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX is currently offline  alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX
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El 05/05/2011 2:33, Aleks Kleyn escribió/wrote:
> ""Álvaro G. Vicario""<alvaro(dot)NOSPAMTHANX(at)demogracia(dot)com(dot)invalid> wrote in
> message news:iprb44$9d6$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...
>> El 04/05/2011 4:05, Aleks Kleyn escribió/wrote:
>>> when I setup MSI file from http://us3.php.net/downloads.php web site, it
>>> shows license agreement which includes following text
>>>
>>> 3. The name "PHP" must not be used to endorse or promote products
>>> derived from this software without prior written permission. For
>>> written permission, please contact group(at)php(dot)net.
>>>
>>> 4. Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor
>>> may "PHP" appear in their name, without prior written permission
>>> from group(at)php(dot)net. You may indicate that your software works in
>>> conjunction with PHP by saying "Foo for PHP" instead of calling
>>> it "PHP Foo" or "phpfoo"
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it mean that I cannot use php files.on public web site?
>>
>> It means that you can take the source code of the PHP interpreter (written
>> in C), make changes to it and advertise it as "Kleyn Language", but you
>> are not allowed to call it "SuperPHP" unless you are granted explicit
>> permission. Which make sense.
[...]
> i think if you take source code for PHP and derive on it another language,
> this will be also breaking author's right, whatever name you will give to
> new language,

Well, that's not mentioned in the licence text you've quoted (which
clearly refers to the PHP *name*). If you have a look at the "PHP
Codebase" section at http://www.php.net/license/ it clearly states that
it's an open source licence with less restrictions than the GPL.
Following the OSD link:

3. Derived Works

The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must
allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license
of the original software.

This is just the basic principle of open source software: it can be
free-as-in-beer or not, but it *has to* be free-as-in-speech. Derived
works are very common: just think of LibreOffice or all those MySQL
forks. But, in general, names and trademarks are different stuff. You
are free to make your own version of Red Hat but you need to give it a
different name (such as CentOS) because you don't own the "Red Hat" name
and its owner does not grant to permission to use it.

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