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Tue, 10 May 2011 20:10

Robert Heller
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At Tue, 10 May 2011 19:40:09 -0000 jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:

>
> richard <member(at)newsguy(dot)com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 21:11:39 +0200, Gregor Kofler wrote:
>>
>>> Am 2011-05-10 18:57, richard meinte:
>>>> Just curious to know if PHP, or other script language, has a method of
>>>> detecting mouse movement.
>>>
>>> No server side script can detect the movement of a mouse attached to a
>>> client computer.
>>>
>>>> I had left a website page open all night and in the morning found I had
>>>> been transferred to another page that said my mouse had been idle for 10
>>>> minutes.
>>>> I have a hunch that it was probably due more to nothing happening on the
>>>> page for a couple of hours.
>>>
>>> You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet...
>>>
>>> All you did was not creating a request which could be detected by the
>>> server (though this request could be invoked by JS without explicit
>>> interaction, too).
>>>
>>> Gregor
>>
>> that's what I figured. Probably done through a cookie check.
>
> Nope, a cookie can't tell if the mouse has moved, all it can determine is
> that nothing had been clicked since the last reload.
>
> To detect if the mouse moved, you would have to use something client side
> like javascript to run a timer which resets on mouse actions and if it
> ever times out, cause either a reload with a send to the server that the
> timeout occured or a load another page.

Right. JavaScript is your *enemy*... Many webpages have more
JavaScript than HTML... In some cases, the site practically downloads
the whole site and then does everything with JavaScript and the
occasional use of AJAX. Which is probably great if you have an
insanely fast computer on an insanely fast Internet connection. Such
sites totally suck on slower computers and esp. on slow (read: dialup)
Internet connections. Of course these JS timeout hacks fail when they
timeout and there is nolonger a network connection (sorry guys, I hung
up the phone...).

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		mouse movement detection? By: richard on Tue, 10 May 2011 16:57
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Gregor Kofler on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:11
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: richard on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:23
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: P E Schoen on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:42
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: richard on Tue, 10 May 2011 20:56
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Tue, 10 May 2011 21:15
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Tue, 10 May 2011 19:40
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Robert Heller on Tue, 10 May 2011 20:10
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Tue, 10 May 2011 21:52
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 May 2011 00:03
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 08:49
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 May 2011 10:39
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 12:24
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 May 2011 15:25
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Sherm Pendley on Wed, 11 May 2011 15:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 May 2011 16:30
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Robert Heller on Wed, 11 May 2011 01:24
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Erwin Moller on Wed, 11 May 2011 06:16
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 09:02
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Wed, 11 May 2011 03:18
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 11 May 2011 04:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 09:11
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 11 May 2011 16:57
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 11 May 2011 20:42
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Wed, 11 May 2011 13:34
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 11 May 2011 16:53
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 02:26
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Thu, 12 May 2011 04:35
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 06:09
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 12 May 2011 10:52
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 20:48
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Thu, 12 May 2011 16:12
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Thu, 12 May 2011 21:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Thu, 12 May 2011 22:05
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Fri, 13 May 2011 00:14
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Fri, 13 May 2011 00:56
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Fri, 13 May 2011 10:34
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Fri, 13 May 2011 15:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Sat, 14 May 2011 00:01
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Sat, 14 May 2011 03:51
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jeff North on Sat, 14 May 2011 05:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sun, 15 May 2011 11:35
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Sun, 15 May 2011 16:41
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 15 May 2011 17:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Twayne on Tue, 17 May 2011 15:37
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 17 May 2011 16:34
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sun, 15 May 2011 22:36
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Mon, 16 May 2011 02:07
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Tue, 17 May 2011 20:33
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Tue, 17 May 2011 20:52
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: P E Schoen on Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: jimp on Wed, 18 May 2011 15:20
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: dougatmilmacdotcom on Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00
		Re: mouse movement detection? By: Sherm Pendley on Wed, 11 May 2011 15:33

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