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Re: Embedding HTML Within a PHP Statement [message #176010 is a reply to message #175997] Tue, 15 November 2011 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Gregor Kofler is currently offline  Gregor Kofler
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Am 2011-11-14 15:39, Tim Streater meinte:
> In article <4ec11f55$0$6973$e4fe514c(at)news2(dot)news(dot)xs4all(dot)nl>,
> Erwin Moller

>> And what about bookmarking?
>> And intuitive use of the back button?
>>
>> Those things often feel broken to me when using AJAX-riddled websites.
>
> Well, this is an interesting point. In the case of fairly static pages,
> bookmarking/back-button made sense. But if for example you are dealing
> with an on-line purchasing site, you "go to checkout" and then typically
> might go through a number of steps to complete the purchase. Should each
> of these be a separate page, so the page is entirely refreshed in order
> to go to the next one? That looks slow/clumsy. What about if you want to
> go back? Often the page writers provide their own Back button in these
> cases.
>
> For such a set of pages, one could ask:
>
> 1) What does "Back" mean? (i.e., using the browser's Back button)
> 2) Why should anyone bookmark a page in the middle of the set?
> 3) Why should a search engine note a page from the middle of the set?
>
> If I were implementing such a set, I would bookmarking/back-button:
>
> 1) Make it in effect a single page
> 2) Gather the sets of data (delivery address, credit-card data, etc) as
> different phases but allow the user to go back and forth to review each
> and/or correct any. Use my own back/forward buttons for this and ensure
> that no data is lost as user goes back and forth.
> 3) Offer shortcuts to the user such as address lookup based on postcode
> and house name/number
> 4) Browser-back button to take you to page previous to checkout - with
> the option to go forward still with no data lost.

I *hate* such "solutions" (there are some of those out there in the
wild). What happens when I click the real back button (or rather apply
the respective mouse gesture)? Right, I end up at the very beginning of
the purchase process and redo (or at least re-check) all my previous inputs.

> I'm sure most of us have used such checkout sites and have felt, as I
> have, that they offer variable quality in this department.
>
> Anyway - that's nearly enough. I just feel that to offer a better
> service and make better use of the technology one ends up questioning
> bookmarking/back-button a little.

Questioning the back-button? Not even a little.

Gregor

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