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Re: Lilupophilupop [message #176484 is a reply to message #176477]

Sun, 08 January 2012 14:27

Gregor Kofler
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Am 2012-01-08 14:53, M. Strobel meinte:
> Am 07.01.2012 20:34, schrieb Gregor Kofler:
>> Am 2012-01-07 16:13, M. Strobel meinte:
>>> Am 07.01.2012 14:28, schrieb Gregor Kofler:
>>>> Am 2012-01-07 13:15, M. Strobel meinte:
>>>
>>>> > But it happens all the time. If you use tools/4GLs/CMSses you
>>>> > have to trust them, of course.
>>>>
>>>> How can I "trust" (or "mistrust") 4GLs?
>
> Believe that the software does what it is meant to.
> Are you going to ask what I think it is meant to, or what I thing
> you think it is meant to?

A 4th generation language can have bugs and allow exploits, just like
3rd generation languages. Despite the version upgrade, you still have to
write scripts or programs (and care about security issues, which arise
in the scope of your script). A CMS is a ready-to-use product, that
*should* take care of such issues and rule out any security issues in
the scope of the scripts of the application.

>> Gregor
>>
> and to Thomas PE
>
> I think using a software like Coldfusion shows that you trust it
> - at least so far as to say it is usable.

CF is a PITA, but, yes, it's "usable" (some - or rather few - people
even *like* CF). I've never used the term "trust" with a language - they
are "flexible", "concise", "comfortable", etc. I don't know what a
"trustworthy" language is.
Besides, I don't know why CF is considered a 4GL (according to
WikiPedia) and PHP is not.

> Sure there is room to debate "trust".

Sounds like a discussion for discussions sake.

Gregor

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		Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sat, 07 January 2012 12:15
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 07 January 2012 13:15
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Thomas Mlynarczyk on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:27
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: J.O. Aho on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:52
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 07 January 2012 21:02
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Peter H. Coffin on Wed, 11 January 2012 00:31
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Wed, 11 January 2012 08:29
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 January 2012 13:42
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Erwin Moller on Wed, 11 January 2012 14:23
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sat, 07 January 2012 13:28
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sat, 07 January 2012 15:13
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:03
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sat, 07 January 2012 19:34
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sun, 08 January 2012 13:53
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 14:27
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 15:00
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 17:29
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 20:49
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 21:59
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 22:38

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