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Re: Lilupophilupop [message #176517 is a reply to message #176514]

Sun, 08 January 2012 22:38

Jerry Stuckle
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On 1/8/2012 4:59 PM, Gregor Kofler wrote:
> Am 2012-01-08 21:49, Jerry Stuckle meinte:
>
>>> I can't see any difference to 3GLs. Take the mentioned CF. It allows to
>>> define the data type of supplied arguments for function calls. It allows
>>> intrinsic escaping of query strings. Both features *can* (and should) be
>>> used, but it's not obligatory (and they are not "enabled" by some
>>> default setting). Not doing can and will lead to injections. It's more
>>> or less the same thing as with PHP.
>>>
>>
>> First of all, please study up on what a 3GL language is and what a 4GL
>> language is (I won't get into it here - it's off topic in this newsgroup).
>
> LOL. Yes, I can ready the Wikipedia article. From the list there, I know
> and have worked with Clipper, ColdFusion and Mathematica. (And
> ColdFusion in particular urges for a comparison to PHP.)
>
> BTW: the *German* Wikipedia article states that
> "The term 4GL cannot be exactly defined and is used mainly for marketing
> purposes".
>
>>>> And even with a CMS you have to write your own scripts.
>>>
>>> Pardon? You can, but you don't have to. No need to write scripts with
>>> WordPress, Joomla!, Typo3, ...
>
>> I've used WordPress, Joomla and Drupal. In every one of them I've ended
>> up writing code for my client because the plugins don't do what he wants.
>
> So? As I said: you can, but you don't have to. And even then, one (well,
> perhaps not you) would use the CMS' own functions, classes and
> framework. Besides, I'm pretty sure the *vast* majority of CMS based
> websites out there don't sport any individual code snippets.
>

But even if you're using the CMS's own functions, classes and frameworks
you can have security problems in your own code.

And yes, I'm sure there are sites which don't use anything else. Just
as there are sites which use no server-side programming at all.

I'd like to see where you get your statistics that the "*vast majority
of CMS based websites out there don't support any individual code snippets".

>> Of course, if you just tell the client he can only do what the addons
>> allow, that's one thing. I prefer to satisfy the client's needs.
>
> You are every PHP developer's hero. I'd have never thought of that...
>
> Gregor

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		Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sat, 07 January 2012 12:15
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 07 January 2012 13:15
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Thomas Mlynarczyk on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:27
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: J.O. Aho on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:52
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 07 January 2012 21:02
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Peter H. Coffin on Wed, 11 January 2012 00:31
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Wed, 11 January 2012 08:29
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Wed, 11 January 2012 13:42
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Erwin Moller on Wed, 11 January 2012 14:23
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sat, 07 January 2012 13:28
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sat, 07 January 2012 15:13
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sat, 07 January 2012 17:03
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sat, 07 January 2012 19:34
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: M. Strobel on Sun, 08 January 2012 13:53
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 14:27
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 15:00
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 17:29
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 20:49
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Gregor Kofler on Sun, 08 January 2012 21:59
		Re: Lilupophilupop By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 08 January 2012 22:38

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