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Re: loose thinking [message #176790 is a reply to message #176789]

Tue, 24 January 2012 16:28

M. Strobel
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Registered: December 2011

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Am 24.01.2012 17:02, schrieb Arno Welzel:
> M. Strobel, 2012-01-24 14:32:
>
>> Am 24.01.2012 14:04, schrieb "Álvaro G. Vicario":
>>> El 24/01/2012 11:57, M. Strobel escribió/wrote:
>>>> I hate this sloppiness of PHP:
> [...]
>>>> There is no difference between an empty string and null in array indexing. That is
>>>> stupid. Why does the language not just respect my definitions?
>>>
>>> Because your make your definitions fit in something that already have a previous
>>> definition. String keys must be integers or strings, as documented:
>>>
>>> http://es.php.net/manual/en/language.types.array.php#language.types.array.s yntax.array-func
> [...]
>> I am angry about it because not even isset() respects the null value here. I think it
>> makes more sense this way: isset($a[null]) should return false, because there is no
>> null index.
>>
>> The point is that the designers of PHP (if you can talk about design here) probably
>> meant to help programmers in not making all these hideous type distinctions, but the
>> outcome is you have to be really careful about loose comparison and unwanted type
>> conversion, having to write even more if constructs.
>
> Well - the roots of PHP are PHP/FI which could not be called a
> "designed" language.
>
> See <http://www.php.net/manual/phpfi2.php#history>
>
> *scnr*
>

I did not want to be too harsh here. When I started with PHP I wondered why I had to
put the dollar sign on every variable, the language designers did not know the
difference between a variable and a value. Than I had to rename all my .php3
scripts to .php4 and got used to it.

/Str.

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		loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 10:57
		Re: loose thinking By: alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX on Tue, 24 January 2012 13:04
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 13:32
		Re: loose thinking By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 24 January 2012 13:41
		Re: loose thinking By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 24 January 2012 14:35
		Re: loose thinking By: Peter H. Coffin on Tue, 24 January 2012 14:16
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:35
		Re: loose thinking By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:59
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 18:11
		Re: loose thinking By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 25 January 2012 03:49
		Re: loose thinking By: Peter H. Coffin on Wed, 25 January 2012 13:58
		Re: loose thinking By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 25 January 2012 19:37
		Re: loose thinking By: alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX on Tue, 24 January 2012 15:20
		Re: loose thinking By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 24 January 2012 15:43
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 18:43
		Re: loose thinking By: Arno Welzel on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:02
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:28

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