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Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP [message #178111 is a reply to message #178105]

Mon, 14 May 2012 12:04

Jerry Stuckle
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On 5/14/2012 3:51 AM, Shake wrote:
> El 14/05/2012 5:26, Peter H. Coffin escribió:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:54:01 +0200, Shake wrote:
>>
>>> Jerry Stuckle a expos? le 13/05/2012 :
>>>
>>>> You aren't making any sense. Why would it take a server which is
>>>> doing more important things LESS time and resources to do the same
>>>> job as another machine not doing anything.
>>>
>>> This means you have to have two machines. At least.
>>
>> Yes. Of course. That's what real websites do.
>
> I was talking about the "server" like an entity, not entering on how
> these one is "phisicaly".
>
> For example the website I put as example, have two balanced front-ends
> with php and apache, and two other machines with mysql, sphinx and a few
> other servers. Images are on Amazon S3, and also we used (use) some ec2
> machines.
>
> But for me all this stuff is "the server". And to batch the image
> scalating we are talking about using another "machine". For example the
> machines for developers, or testing. They, of course, ar not powerful
> machines. Don't need to be.
>
> And I put numbers, about 266.000 page views per day. I am talking about
> a real case. Not teorethical. And we tried both methods, batching and
> on-the-fly.
>
> And the result is: On the fly is more flexible, more quick to put on
> production new sizes. And it have to be used when images are not so big.
>
> If we have to scale the originals to a big size, on the fly could be a
> big problem. The true is that always is a problem in any manner when you
> have to scale to big sizes.
>
> But when you need a new little image size, and you can use the nearest
> bigger scaled image, process is quick enough to do on-the-fly without
> penalizing speed, or overload on the server.
>
> Greetings

You can do that when you have such a light load. Get a real load and
you're in trouble.

But even with that, you should be resizing offline and not requiring the
server to do it.

But it sounds like you're too cheap to get your developers decent
machines, and have no idea how to scale images. The "nearest bigger
scaled image" will almost certainly give a substandard image, especially
when you repeatedly rescale them.

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		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 10 May 2012 03:53
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Daniel Pitts on Thu, 10 May 2012 20:15
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Thu, 10 May 2012 20:48
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 10 May 2012 21:05
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Daniel Pitts on Thu, 10 May 2012 21:29
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 10 May 2012 23:35
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Daniel Pitts on Fri, 11 May 2012 01:50
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 02:22
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Daniel Pitts on Fri, 11 May 2012 17:03
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 17:56
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Fri, 11 May 2012 09:58
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 10:51
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Fri, 11 May 2012 19:11
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 19:29
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Fri, 11 May 2012 19:53
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 22:11
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Fri, 11 May 2012 23:00
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 May 2012 00:44
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 11 May 2012 23:38
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 11 May 2012 23:36
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 11 May 2012 13:01
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 14:34
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Fri, 11 May 2012 18:58
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 19:30
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Fri, 11 May 2012 19:46
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 22:14
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Sat, 12 May 2012 12:42
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 May 2012 15:04
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Sat, 12 May 2012 16:40
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 May 2012 19:49
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Sat, 12 May 2012 21:59
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Sun, 13 May 2012 11:46
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Peter H. Coffin on Sun, 13 May 2012 12:50
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Anders Wegge Keller on Sun, 13 May 2012 14:15
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 13 May 2012 14:36
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 13 May 2012 13:06
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Sun, 13 May 2012 16:54
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 13 May 2012 17:27
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Peter H. Coffin on Mon, 14 May 2012 03:26
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Mon, 14 May 2012 07:51
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 12:04
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Mon, 14 May 2012 12:25
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 13:37
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:22
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Mon, 14 May 2012 14:45
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 18:07
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Mon, 14 May 2012 20:37
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:47
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Mon, 14 May 2012 15:53
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 18:06
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Mon, 14 May 2012 18:36
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 18:53
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:04
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:48
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:00
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:57
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 11 May 2012 23:38
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 May 2012 00:46
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: PlastiqueMAN on Wed, 23 May 2012 20:45
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 24 May 2012 04:18
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		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Thu, 24 May 2012 10:00
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 24 May 2012 13:12
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Shake on Thu, 24 May 2012 14:29
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Michael Fesser on Thu, 24 May 2012 18:41
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 24 May 2012 19:17
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Luuk on Fri, 11 May 2012 19:53
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 11 May 2012 22:15
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Luuk on Sat, 12 May 2012 08:00
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 May 2012 11:29
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: Peter H. Coffin on Sat, 12 May 2012 11:47
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 11 May 2012 23:40
		Re: Windows binaries 64bit for PHP By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 11 May 2012 00:07

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