| Re: Programming Rates [message #178891 is a reply to message #178885] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 21:42   |
Graham Hobbs
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:36:37 +0200, houghi <houghi(at)houghi(dot)org(dot)invalid>
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> Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Loaded question and varies widely am sure but am curious to know how
>> much PHP web developers get paid these days so if I contract with one
>> I'll have some idea of the costs.
>
> What is the money unit you want it in. Is local importand or not.
>
>> Am especially interested (Ithink) in one or two person 'homey' folk
>> with low overhead but well skilled. Am trying to avoid the local
>> companies with 'corporate' budgets.
>
> If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Also if you are not sure what you
> want, nobody can give you an accurate price. It will be too high or too
> low. Both will be bad.
> So first make it clear what exactly you want. Then set up a budget for
> yourself. Look at your businessplan as it should be in there.
>
> Next go looking for whomever is willing to take the deal. Be surprised
> at the differences. When we did it at the company I worked, the prices
> for our site was between 15.000EUR and 200.000 EUR. Our budget was
> 35.000 EUR and we took some small company who did it for 32.000 EUR
>
> However we were very clear what we wanted and many of the people told us
> so. We wanted a company in our country, who we could visit or they could
> visit us.
> It had to be open source and we must own the code (so no hostin
> solution) so that f we so wanted, we could dump them and go elsewhere.
>
> Obviously this was more then just a one page.
>
>> I have a crude website advertising my software product (not public
>> because am not ready). Is all PHP that largely needs cosmetizing and
>> stupidity correcting BUT in particular needs to add a 'Buy the
>> software' page to sell my single product over the Internet.
>
> There are many, many software packages that already do all that for you.
> Both payware and freeware. Are you able to do many things yourself? Then
> yo could use something like e.g. Drupal and have a Drupal developer do
> customization, if you so like. Yes, you must start over from scratch,
> but in the long run it will be easier.
>
>> Ideas are:
>> a) via my website a buyer of my software pays money into my bank
>> account, I email a .zip file, without manual intervention
>
> Email can be cumbersome. What if my provider thins it is spam? What if
> by company blocks attachments? What if I deleted the mail before I saved
> it?
> Using a download link will be much easier. There are plenty of ways to
> do this. Also much easier if you suddenly have real success and
> thousands of people want to buy your software. You can then host it on a
> different server at perhaps a different company and do even download
> depending on location.
>
>> b) via my website a buyer of my software pays money into my bank
>> account, I email a 'password', buyer downloads a file at leisure (from
>> where, my server, my computer?) via the password, again no manual
>> intervention
>
> Don't do the payment to the bank account. It is slow and hard to track.
> Use credit card companies. Manu solutions already exist for that.
> If you have still no idea on how to people will download or get the
> software, re-think your businessplan.
>
>> c) I should talk to Paypal
>
> You should talk to everybody. Paypal, Bitcoin, companies that handle
> credit card payments.
>
>> d) other options?
>
> Yes. Most importand is to write down what you want. Make up your
> businessplan. To me it sounds like you think you have great software
> and people will knock down your door to buy it. However you have no
> intention of investing money and/or time into it, because you want fee
> money.
>
> Re-think what you want and write it down. Then go to your bank and see
> if they would be willing to invest money that you need. Most likely they
> won't. It will, however, make it clear for you what you want and thus
> need.
>
>> e) I live where there is no PHP activity in driving distance
>
> That you know of. Obviously I have no idea where you live, but for all
> you know, the people next door might be who you are looking for
>
>> Concept is that all my time will be watching my bank account online
>> rolling up::--))).
>
> Then it will fail. From all the people who have been successfull in
> business, all of then worked hard and long hours at least at the start.
> Oh and most of them failed at least once.
>
> houghi
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Hey houghi,
Watching bank account was a joke!
Thanks for your comments. Them plus Jerry's neatish answer .. I know
what to expect.
Graham
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